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How do the 6 friends photos at the top of Facebook Timeline get choosen?

Why do certain friends seem to show up as one of the the six photos in the small friends list photo box at the top of Facebook Timeline? Are these the 6 friends people who have visited your profile recently or have been online recently? What is the reason for only seeing certain friends pictures in this friends box?


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I'm even more sure now that the top 6 displays those who have recently viewed you.
My boyfriend has been without the internet for nearly 6 months now and had never once been appearing on my "top six" friends throughout this time. As I logged into facebook today and viewed my page I noticed that strangely his picture was in the top six, and appeared on average 1/2 the times I refreshed the page.
Half an hour later I got a text from my boyfriend telling me how strange it felt having the internet now, and that he'd finally got around to setting it up in his new place last night. I asked him how he's been using it and he said he'd mainly been wasting time on facebook and had been looking through a bunch of the pictures from our recent vacation.

That's sure one hell of a "random coincidence" that he only started appearing on my top six for the first time in six months on the very day that he got his internet access back and had been looking at my page...
I should also point out that he did not comment, tag or like any of my pictures or wall posts. Nor did he send me any kind of message.
There was absolutely no direct interaction- only him viewing my page. –  Nicola1983  Aug 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 PM
You could be onto something, but I also think it could be that people show up in the 6 box when they log on to facebook. So it doesn't necessarily mean they're looking at your profile recently, just that they were recently online. And they're showing up in your 6 box because they have looked at your profile in the past. For me, it shows a certain group of people all the time and I think it might just be a group of people who have looked at my page in the past, and facebook just kept track of that group and shows them to me when they come online. I –  Athalia  Aug 3rd, 2012 at 7:09 PM
That's a good point, but looking back he has checked his facebook maybe once a week on my computer to see his messages etc while I was there, but never clicked on my page as there was no real need to. Never during those times when he simply logged on to check messages did he appear in my top 6 box.
I think that recent online activity is certainly a factor in the top six, but I also believe that viewing your page recently is required in order to start showing up in your top 6 friends. Many people I see online facebook, yet never appear in my top friends (which makes sense as they are people who have no real reason to be viewing my page and are more like aquaintances than actual friends.) –  Nicola1983  Aug 3rd, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Ok! I can confirm whtat Nicola1983 said. My crush who keeps appearing on my top 6 this two days has been viewing my account and he told me so. –  Urban  Aug 4th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Also, my dummy account keeps showing up. I have never viewed my dummy account at all cause there's nothing in it. :p –  Urban  Aug 4th, 2012 at 3:42 PM
@urban but have you viewed his profile in the past? i still think that is a big factor in who shows up in the 6 box. as for your dummy account, might have something to do with the fact that it's from the same IP address as your regular account.

Anyone notice that we mentioned the friends summary box that was at the beginning of every year on timeline (on the previous page), and then a week later facebook completely got rid of it??? –  tiff  Aug 4th, 2012 at 3:53 PM
@Tiff, about my crush...I've stopped viewing his profile for many months. As for the IP thingy, you may be right. However, my dummy account only just showed up for the first time after facebook algorithm reconfiguration (the first one here that had all of us confused). –  Urban  Aug 5th, 2012 at 5:40 AM
Also, this is pretty interesting. My 2nd dummy account that I've never used to visit my main page never showed up at all. –  Urban  Aug 5th, 2012 at 5:47 AM
Yes I saw the friends summary box, it's gone now. I strongly suspect facebook monitor this forum. –  Urban  Aug 5th, 2012 at 6:00 AM
If the 6 box does show people who've viewed you, that makes me even more confused about the 8 box. Because sometimes it randomly shows a couple of people for a while (I haven't interacted with these people and the rest of the 8 box stays the same consistantly), but they don't show up in my 6 box. ??? –  Athalia  Aug 5th, 2012 at 2:13 PM
for me, i'm fairly certain that the 6 box shows people i've viewed the most overall, people i've viewed recently, people i've interacted with most overall, and people i've interacted with recently. –  tiff  Aug 5th, 2012 at 11:23 PM
@tiff: yeah, that could be it actually. I've realized that the people currently showing up in my 6 box are the top 25 people on my keesh list. Now, if the keesh list doesn't factor in people who view me as well, then the 6 box does show people I've viewed/interacted with the most. And the people showing up under the three names in the friend finder, are all in the top 10 of my keesh list.
Now, the 8 box is still really weird to me. As is the top 5 rows of my friends list. –  Athalia  Aug 6th, 2012 at 8:56 AM
I'm still not convinced about it being the people I've viewed most in the 6 box. There always tends to be a couple in there who I never, ever view but I strongly suspect view mine often. In particular a co-worker who asked me out several times before getting the message that I was taken. I have never even looked at his profile except the one time when I first added him, and that was months and months ago. Yet he is very regularly in my top 6 box. I think maybe it's a combination of factors rather than just one particular thing. –  Nicola1983  Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
I think the (my) 6 box shows people who I (mutually) interacted a lot in a certain period of time (either through messaging / group chat / events we were both invited or attended) IN THE PAST who has been online RECENTLY (not sure if viewed my profile). (There are people mentioning that those are usually the same as the top list of friends in your chat box and I believe this explains it)
and my 8 box's got those who I've liked/commented on their status or posts thru newsfeed (without going to their profile) + 2-3 random ppl so maybe one way interaction? –  StupidGirl  Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:55 AM
but not everyone I interacted a lot thru commenting/liking on their post or stalking appear in either of the boxes –  StupidGirl  Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:57 AM


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created a profile from which i NEVER looked at my real profile.
with fake profile, checked my real page a few times a week.
keesh list went UP.
i think this would mean the keesh list also takes into account who is viewing your profile.
what you think???
i'm pretty excited about this finding...
Which one is the keesh list again sorry? –  Nicola1983  Aug 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 PM
i agree, i've looked at certain friends' profiles frequently (multiple times each day) and these friends don't necessarily move up on the keesh list; however, other friends whose profiles i view once every two weeks tend to move up on the list, along with randoms who i don't view, rather than my "frequently viewed" friends' profiles. –  sandman12  Aug 3rd, 2012 at 6:56 PM


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I have a situation very different than people are telling.
My old crush, it's been 2 months since I don't check her profile one or two time a week, she is not my top 15 friends row when I see all of my friends, I've spammed a lot of my other friends which I check by liking or checking what they post, or talking, yet she still stay in the top of my keesh list and my friends which I interact a lot are moving a little up in my keesh list but they're still very very far away from her number, and the most weird things is, she is 90% of time in my 6 and 8 box friends on my timeline, yet in the last 2 months I only checked her one time to see her friends list, because other people that I see liking what I post, I am usually in their top 15, but her, she has 700 friends more + & I'm in the far bottom of her friends list like below 600. So I don't understand how can she stay almost all the time in my timeline boxes if I don't check her, neither she does.

An other weird things is, there is people who I have restricted everything that I posted since 3 months (so they still see me as friends, but my timeline is empty for them, and I still see some them in my top 15 friends & the timeline boxes. I've only checked 1 time in 3 months, 2 days ago, where am I in their friends list, I'm at the very bottom of their friends list, yet they still show up in my top 15 friends (even on my keesh list they're high, and I don't check them too), and there is people who I interact a lot with who aren't in my top 15 neither in my boxes.

I've created a dummy account 3 days ago, I spammed my dummy account to check my page to see If I see her in my timeline boxes, she only appeared 3 times in 5 refresh 2 days ago, after, she never appeared again, yet I still spam my account with my dummy every day. I've checked my dummy account one time, she was in the top 10 of my keesh list, which is very strange because I've only opened her timeline one time, and nothing more, and now my keesh list has gone back before my dummy appeared. (my keesh list updated 3 times yesterday with very different numbers)

The other strange things, is when you check people friends list, like someone said in the page 4, is there is sometime a line where there is only one or two friends, with my dummy account, there is one of my friends who I never interact with btw, I'm in the rows where there is a lot of her family (I really don't know why) and I've seen with my dummy that the missing spot before the rows with his family and me, there was a guy that I blocked. But I still think it's because people put their friends in differents groups or either it's because some of their friends are hiding. I prefer the group theory, since when I see I'm in a row with certains people who I know and the friends I check isn't checking anymore the other friends, that I know too, wall because I know they haven't been on facebook since a lot of months, I guess it's because they've put me and our mutual friends in people they don't want to check, or old friends, or something like that.

(by the way, sorry for my very bad english)
(and I have only 50 friends)
in response to your comment on your keesh list- that's interesting how yours updated three times in one day. mine only updates every 4-5 days! it seems pretty dynamic though, and i'm convinced it's people who view your profile more frequently –  sandman12  Aug 4th, 2012 at 3:35 AM


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One last thing is, my old crush, is the friend which I have the most common fan page with.
And with my dummy account, she's always proposed first to be friended with and she disappear like 2 times after 20 refresh, then reappear a lot, she's shown 90% time, even more, since I have the proposal from the top of the news feed, and from the right, and she appear a lot on the 2 proposal.


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Tiff - I noticed that friends summary disappeared within a week of you pointing it out. You were TOTALLY right about that one. Year by year. I saw what I wanted to see. Take a look at a couple of other things that remain from those years that you may not have highlighted. I don't want to say specifics lest they disappear again, but I believe you were correct. My only fear/doubt is that Facebook may just have figured out what we want to see. I look at my crush's profile once every 2 months at most because I can see it other ways and only communicate occasionally through private message or chat, but more often in person. He's still in my top obvious places week after week.
Do you think facebook will change the algorithm IF we figure this out (got it correctly)?
or they'll just let us see what we WISH to see or who we WISH to see –  StupidGirl  Aug 6th, 2012 at 3:35 AM
@ Tiff- I agree about Facebook changing the algorithms when they find out what we notice. For example, my friends who show up when I'm "offline" on the sidebar do not seem to be in the same order as they were a little while ago, which leads me to believe that Facebook has changed the algorithm again... –  sandman12  Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:19 AM
mm, I totally agree with you when you say Fb works out what we want to see, it's how they make us eager to exist in it and use it. So many people seem to have their crush stalking them that it's too suspicious, but it sure makes a difference when you log on your account and feel that certain people may be around and can see you. It's crasy how this network works, considering how people get involved trying to work out what's going on. –  marie  Aug 9th, 2012 at 1:46 PM


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Somebody download the Facebook Messenger software?

When you reduce the size of the windows, it reduces to people who you are supposed to interact the most, but the interesting things, is for me, that it doesn't follow completly the keesh list, some friends are ahead of 2-3 other friends in the chat list who are ahead of them in the keesh list in example. Did somebody notice something similar?


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I am sorry to break it down... I might self thought I was being stalk by the guy I liked, bz he always showed up on my timeline, but I did a fake profile and I stated stalking my self, ;( no sign of me so I dont believe is who's looking at your profile.
I stoped liking his stuff, and his not thwere anymore.. :(
I thought this too, I was stalked by a girl I liked, I stopped looking at her shit since 2-3 months (never liked anything from her), and she's still up in my top 6 & my top 8 on 2 of the 3 set I have.
I really don't know what to think, because some things my Facebook show doesn't do the same as other people saying on this page. I'm terribly lost on how Facebook work. Even if the things said on the first 3 pages of this threads was doing exactly the same on my facebook back at the time, it doesn't do the same for me that people are saying lately. –  Jane  Aug 9th, 2012 at 9:06 PM
i think you might need to have mutual interactions first....but I don't know how long it's gonna last if you stop interacting. –  StupidGirl  Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:50 AM


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Isn't it mutual contact, you have to be checking there stuff out and vice versa to have them appear so much on your timeline?
Yes, mutual contact will help play a larger role in who shows up on your timeline. –  Answers  Aug 10th, 2012 at 7:09 AM
I've found, it's much easier to understand what's going on when you don't stalk or view other peoples profiles.

For those who rarely look at other people's profiles, you get a better sense at how facebook is choosing the friends to show up because you know you aren't skewing the results by viewing one person profile more than others.

For those who look at someone's profile / pictures everyday or quite often, it's going mess with who shows up on your profile and facebook will more than likely show you that persons pic more often.

But with all that said, everyone's friends are different and their circumstances are going to be different. In other words, not everyone's profile is the same so, people will draw different conclusions based on how they use facebook and their friends use facebook. –  Answers  Aug 10th, 2012 at 7:23 AM


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I was kinda sick of constantly getting notifications for everything from my close friends list, so i made a new list and put all my previous close friends in that list and left the original close friend list empty. When i refreshed my homepage, i noticed the 8th friend spot was blank... and when i added about 5 random people back into close friends, one of the five went into that eighth friend spot. Anyone else notice this?


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I have this situation. I visit my X profile a lot. I liked some of his status and pictures and commented couple of his pictures. He did comment only once on one of my picture 3 or 4 months back.
1) In my keesh list he is number 2. (Number 1 is another frnd who mutually interacts a lot.). No 3 , 4 ,5 are all my relatives and good friends.
2) He appears in 6 box often and 8 less frequently.
3) he appears in chat list however I resized the chat list.
4) He appears in top 5 rows and never ever gone down.
5) He appears often in my mobile top 6.

I never looked at his friends finder page before. But when I started noticing it, I am at the very BOTTOM of the page ( like in the last 2 or 3 rows and he has about 170 friends.). I used to think that he was also stalking and all the above 1 – 5 that I mentioned are due to the mutual interactions. But I am not sure why I was not in his top 5 rows even though he is always in my top 5 rows. I have noticed all the other good friends ‘Friends finder’ page I am almost in their top 5 rows.

So he never looks at my profile? Because, I never visited the friends page of my last few rows of my ‘friends finder’ page and I am sure neither they do. And I assume thats why they are at the bottom of my friends list. Now, I am so confused why I am at the very bottom of his friends finders list though all the other criteria is favourable to me making me think its a mutual interaction.
You got the same situation as me, I really don't know what to think, when I asked if he stalked me, he asked what does it mean (we're french), I told him if he looked at my profile, no more answer. (and I don't know if it means yes or no, since he like to toys with people, but seeing what I lived with him, I guess it's no :)))))) –  Jane  Aug 10th, 2012 at 7:26 PM
i always thought the opposite was true, because i was always within the top 20 rows of my crush's friends page, but sometimes he would drop toward the bottom of mine, even though i would look at his profile pretty consistently once a week. hmm... –  tiff  Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:42 PM
there might be lag and again, I don't think other people's friend lists you see are the same as the ones they see –  StupidGirl  Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:43 AM
nvm...I think I was wrong –  StupidGirl  Aug 18th, 2012 at 4:02 PM


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Now I strongly believe its only one sided as Facebook said. because from my end I can see him where ever I want him to be. But from his end, its totally opposite. I also referred to John's posting above.
I strongly have to disagree... there's not a chance it's only one sided.   With that said however, one side can and more than likely will play a larger role in who shows up. –  Answers  Aug 11th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Hi, it's John. (I made a account under Jane, didn't have under John)

I really have to try to put my old crush a lot below, she's actually 1st, I'll try to see if it change anything when she's below top my top 10 friends on the keesh list and if she still keep appearing like crazy.

One last thing I want to add, is when I made my dummy account, & I've checked my keesh list two days after, she had a number like -0,24xxxxxx, yet I only checked her account once with my real one (and spammed my real account with my dummy, and when I spam all my friend's account, it only bump from a very little number for them (like -0,56xx to -0,58xx even with a lot of chatting, looking profile and other stuff). Strange thing too is, after she appeared on my keesh list, the same day, on the dawn, she disappeared, and now she doesn't have reappeared again (it's been one week), yet my keesh list has changed 2 times since then... And on my dummy account, my real account has disappeared from the keesh list since the same day too... (and it was the only account on the keesh list)

Btw, I use two differents browser to use the 2 accounts at the same time, I should check with a proxy if Facebook check the IP to determine the keesh list or other things.

And one very last thing, my dummy account now appear on one of my 3 set of 8 box friends.

Sad things is, I've done a big clean up in my friends list, so I can't test much... –  Jane  Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:01 PM


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I want to add too, that my old crush, is maybe one of the only friends I have who doesn't show on the close friends suggestion list, even If I have a lot of suggestion of what she like, photos, friends, etc


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I recently started talking to an ex gf again whom i defriended on facebook awhile back. she recently brought up some of the things on my facebook timeline that i know she can't see because she is not my friend. therefore i got this suspicion that she was using her sisters facebook (who i'm still friends with) in order to stalk my profile. sure enough her sisters picture is in my top 6 box about 75% of the time when check it. i've never talked, like, commented or even looked for that matter at her sisters profile. i think this helps answer the question.
This is interesting. For me, everyone who shows up in the 6 box I have looked at/liked/commented. Are you sure you didn't view the sister?

Recently I've been paying more attention to the friend finder and the list of suggestions it gives me. I really think there's something there. I provide care to elderly people and for the past few days this one person has been at the top of the friends suggestions. I clicked on this person, went to their friends list and noticed it included someone who has the same last name as one of my clients. I believe my client contacted this family member and mentioned me and this person looked me up. Seeing as this person does the same type of work as I do, it makes sense that they would check up on who works for their family member. And facebook just shows a random person from the friends list of whoever looks at you. That's what makes it so confusing because for me it shows a bunch of people who I have multiple friends in common with. That makes it harder to guess which one of them has been viewing me. I think that's facebooks way of keeping some privacy there. But if you pay attention you can tell who has been viewing you. It's very interesting. –  Athalia  Aug 11th, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Athalia, some friends suggestions are also some of your contacts interacting a lot with them.
I got a friend a suggestion who is always almost on top from the friend I interact the most with (he's actually 2nd on my keesh list because my old crush doesn't seems like to decrease :))
One time, he checked his facebook account on my computer, and forgot to log out, I checked her chat and the friend who was almost always on top of the friends suggestion was the 2nd friends she was talking the most too after me. I checked the log (not to spy what they were saying, just to see if they didn't talk of me or link some of my stuff) to see if it could lead her friend to the top friends suggestion, and actually there was nothing about me. –  Jane  Aug 11th, 2012 at 11:37 PM
That could be, but this person on my list I have no friends in common with. Nothing. Don't know them at all. He only has 12 friends, including the person who I *think* looked at me. –  Athalia  Aug 12th, 2012 at 7:02 AM


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Josh, did u check whats your position o your ex's sister's friends page and where is her position on your friends page.

I am really confused about this friends page. some of the friends I know who is stalking me are also in my top 5 rows ( I never visited their profiles) and I am in their top 5 rows. But my crush is also there but I am at the bottom at his friends page. I really dont understand..
Well, I don't understand too, I've got an other case, I have a friend who like a lot of my things, I don't check his things on facebook (he's like 30th on the keesh list on the people I'm friend with), only on msn (we talk a lot on msn) and he's not in my top 5 rows, yet some friends who I restiscted my facebook profile to them 2 months ago, & before I restricted there access, my wall was empty are in my top 5 rows. I can't understand how people who are a little higher than him on the keesh list because I checked some of their things a looooooooong time ago, and who had never something to check on my page can be on my top 5 rows, and still in my 6 friends box... (I even checked their friends list one time, & I'm the last...) –  Jane  Aug 11th, 2012 at 11:52 PM


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I am in her bottom 1/4 of the friends and she is in the top 30 of my friends. again i have never messaged, like, commented or even looked at her profile before i did just then to check the friends lists.


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i am on an online dating site and have "friended" a few of the men, just to we can see one another's profiles. we have never met, they have not posted on my FB at all nor have i posted on their's. We have no mutual friends or posts or pics. However, those 3 men are always in my top FB box now. So, either they are looking at me or it's because I'm looking at them. Haven't figured that one out yet!


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Looks like the algorithm for top 8 via timeline, when viewing it from another person's perspective(view as.. type friend's name) has changed again/switched back.

Originally, when you saw it from another friend's perspective, the top 8 changed almost completely to a different set, but then months after, it matched your top 8 from your view (minus if any one of your friend's on the top 8 showed, it would be replaced by a mutual friend). Now it seems to revert to the original having 2 different sets of top 8 thing.
For me it still shows the same top 8 when viewing through a friend and it still replaces them with a mutual friend if they're on there. –  Athalia  Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
my sister and i did comparisons recently and discovered that what you see on the top 8 when you "view as a friend" is different from what they actually see on your top 8 when they view your page... –  tiff  Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:32 PM
also, unrelated, but top 6 is definitely (mostly) who you view. I viewed an old friend's profile twice just now (there is extremely little chance they were looking mine recently too), and 30 minutes later they showed up in my top 6. –  tiff  Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:35 PM
I also did a couple experiments. I viewed someone's page for the first time and he appeared on my top 6 the next day. So based on my experience, top 6 is a combination of who I view and who view me.

Also, this forum has become so long, has anyone figured out why some people are shown onchat list and the list keeps changing everyday for me. My crush is always on top, no. 1 in this case. –  Urban  Aug 15th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
my top 6 is always the same set of friends, for some friends, no matter how often I check their profile, they never show up in the 6 box. –  StupidGirl  Aug 15th, 2012 at 1:42 PM


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I don't know if anyone posted this already (read half trough the whole thread) but did you notice the following:

the 8 people box. the set of people switches about once/twice per day. But try to "view as" as one of this 8 people and instead of this person, there will be the person closest to him/her. I've noticed that when i typed in some friends who are in a relationship with another friend. And exactly this girlfriend/boyfriend appeared instead of the person i was "viewing as". In the end i could already predict it.

Interesting way to check out who's close to who ... if my theory is true~


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Hi all.

Can't possibly have the time to read all this but very interesting and certainly 100% 'means' something who is viewing you, however, can someone answer this one then?

The '6' i'm talking about on my timeline - on the laptop the 6 are different (not always but highly) to those who appear on my iPhone app Facebook, what meaning has this cos i haven't a clue, aside from the fact that possibly the one person who comes up constantly on my fone, is using the app themselves as they never use the PC, would this be possible?

Thanks
Yes, that would definitely be possible. Facebook is certainly keeping track of what each User is "using" when they login and access Facebook. This would include mobile devices, computers, web browsers, location, ip address, etc. Any data they can track, more than likely Facebook is keeping track of it, and using it in their algorithm. –  Answers  Aug 16th, 2012 at 8:09 PM
Hey thanks!! I seriously thought i was going mental, been watching this for ages, months, so know the basics and know there's more to it, if i refresh my FB page on mobile the same one person comes up nearly every time, yet never on the laptop, there must be something in this surely, i'm running them next to each other now so cannot be anything else, as the rest of the page runs alongside each other... anyone else? ALSO, if i view a friends page, the friends i see i presume aren't the ones that they see? Is it more a case they are mutual or closest friends we may have rather than the ones that are 'watching' them the closest? Thanks again, bloody obsessive this lol –  Derique  Aug 16th, 2012 at 8:30 PM
Yes, when you view a friends page, it's more than likely going to show you "mutual friends" first, and not people who are viewing/ stalking their page. And yes, you will more likely see a much different set of friends on someone elses page, than the ones they would typically see. –  Answers  Aug 16th, 2012 at 9:46 PM


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How recent is recent interaction? Like a week, month, multiple months or what? Should someone appear in your box weeks after the last profile view?
i'd say of course depends on how much it's used, but for me, daily maximum, can be as low as hours.... i now am sure about this, going back to my questions above, the person in question i'm talking about doesn't log in on PC, however, yesterday they did, once, and i know it, and the only time that person appeared for a while within the 6, yet that person is there nearly every re-fresh on my mobile still, cementing the fact that the mobile device FB differs from the usual online... mental how this could be ignored is beyong me... –  Derique  Aug 18th, 2012 at 9:47 PM


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So what's the truth? Do the 6- and 8-friends boxes show the people that regularly view our profiles? And does the "Friend finder" show the top 10 stalkers? Does the keesh list show people that view us, or the people the we view?
answers i certainly don't have unless you read further back, however, i'm concenrating on the '6', and there's certainly something very high in that in who are viewing you, not you them, in my opinion anyway –  Derique  Aug 18th, 2012 at 11:02 PM
best way is to look into it yourself, do your own 'research' with the information you have yourself, i think then it becomes pretty clear, is in my case anyway... –  Derique  Aug 18th, 2012 at 11:03 PM
I honestly don't know anymore. Recently a guy posted on my wall and asked me about some pictures I had posted when we were hanging out later, but he hasn't show up in the 6 or 8 box and he is at the bottom of my friends list. He obviously looked at my page, but he doesn't show up in the boxes, so I'm thinking it shows who you look at or it's random. Leaning towards random myself right now because I look at his page regularly and he doesn't show up, so.. –  Athalia  Aug 19th, 2012 at 10:48 AM


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Ok After reading this discussion I decided to do my own little experiment, because I get the same 20-25 people rotation in my 6-friend list, including my crush, with whom I have no interatction.
-I added to my "Close Friends" list the most random friend I have on fb. I don't even know him in real life, NEVER had any interaction whatsoever, no tags in pics, not even a single "like" to any of each other's photos/status updates etc. The result:
-After 10 minutes he appeared on my 6-friend list and stayed there most of the time after refreshing over and over. The next day-he was still there-then I removed him from the "Close Friends" and all of a sudden he immediately disappeared from my 6-friend box!

Do you think there's a chance that some of the people I MYSELF see on MY 6-friend list have added me to THEIR "Close Friends" list?

What a mystery with this thing!
Yes, that's certainly possible that they have added you to their "Close Friends" list, so they can keep better tabs on you and not miss anything you post. –  Answers  Aug 19th, 2012 at 1:03 PM


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Has anyone else noticed this: in Facebook chat online or offline I can no longer shrink the list to the "top" friends as before. The names do not shift or change anymore when attempting to shrink. Dammit.
I noticed this also! –  nameless  Aug 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 PM


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I've been following this thread and doing my own self experiments regarding the top 6 friends and heres what i found:

1. I've been watching my keesh list, focusing on the top few people on my list and found that the keesh list updates itself to show more negative numbers (the more negative, the more fb thinks you are associated with them) for the top few people sometimes and then within the day (after a few hours), updates itself again to show lower negative numbers. For example, if person A's original number is -1.05, the keesh updates it to -1.15 (even though i didnt search for her name or looked at any of her photos). Pegged with people lower down on my keesh list, these people's negative numbers increased even though others lower down the keesh list decreased. After a few hours, person A's number updates itself again to show -0.0954. This happened after i uploaded an album of photos. Therefore my conjecture is that the first update reflected that the top few people on my list (whom i also know are close to me in real life and possibly looked through my photos), browsed through my photos, thus affecting the keesh number. But the second update to -0.0954 reflects the fact that i did not view their profile or photos because afterall the keesh is supposed to reflect only a one-sided view, therefore in the end the numbers still reflect how impt these people are to ME. however, if you are able to catch that few hours where these people's negative numbers increase, it possibly shows that they are interested in you too (mutual viewing).

2. A lot of people have remarked that your friends list shows your stalkers, top few rows shows those who have viewed you. I beg to disagree because i know for sure my girlfriend stalks me like crazy. sometimes i even log into her computer to view my profile and look through all my photos. But she is nowhere near the top 15 rows on my friends list.

3. The top 6 people definitely show people you have facebook messaged because there are few people i have messaged once for non-interesting reasons and i know they are not interested in me whatsoever but they show up there. The chat list also shows and gives priority to the same people whom i have facebook messaged before, as well as those i have stalked.

4. I also doubt that the top 8 have anything to do with showing your stalkers because the top 8 that you see is also the same top 8 that others can see. If facebook reveals your stalkers to everyone who views your profile it will be a violation of their privacy code, which is why i am more inclined to believe that the top 6 will show your stalkers amidst others (who have facebook messaged you, tagged in the same photos as you, your stalkers... etc), I created a fake account and stalked two random people aggressively, i know they do not stalk me back so this is really one-sided viewing on my part. They appeared in my top 6 and top 8. The reason why people are still unsure about who is stalking them is because the group of people that appear in the top 6 are mixed with other people as well as the people you stalk which makes it hard to single that one or two people who is stalking you, especially if its someone you have been stalking.

5. i created a second fake account (we'll call it account B) and account B has been stalking account A for months. So far account B has only showed up in account A's top 6. initially, account B didn't show up in account A's top 6 friends at all no matter how many times i stalked account A, but within 1 click of account A viewing account B, account B showed up. this shows mutual interaction is vital in a person showing up in the top 6, but because account A's activities are limited and account A only stalks two other people, i cannot be sure that account B's presence in account A's top 6 is due to the fact that account B stalks account A. Account B also shows up very high on account A's chat list (but not as high as the people account A stalks), which is another area i'm looking into.

please note that all these are just conjectures on my part, i hope someone can help me confirm or prove them wrong.
As usual all further research is all the more confusing.

I still have people at the top of my friends list who I know have an eye on me and I've never interacted with them, and only been once on their account, long ago.

Otherwise top 6 definitely shows people recently logged on Fb, wether stalkers or not I'm not sure, but I'd say people we stalk and randoms.

As for the 8, recently those who showed up had recently viewed my account.

So so far I have completely different conclusions from yours,

Considering your point 2, about your girlfriend stalking you and not apearing in your top friends, where do you appear in her top friends ? do you often stalk her ? And do you interact via facebook or not at all ? –  marie  Aug 20th, 2012 at 3:52 PM


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I guess you have to believe what you will, but clearly something strong in all this.

Reading the last few - the "close" friends list is all but certain, the person i am having stalk me i 'presume' is on that persons close list, purely as they knew about posts i had put up then deleted reasonably quickly, within say 5 minutes.

Yesterday i met a friend who had not really used facebook since Feb 12, so he stalked the crap out of me for a while to dis-prove my theory, indeed, he never showed up in my top 6, so told me it was bollox - until this morning i logged in at work and there he is, in the top 6... My stalker also logged in on a PC as for a while they showed on my pc, however, that person still shows on both my accounts near constantly whilst mobile, i have not viewed that persons account since Saturday...


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I think the 6 box has a lot to do with who you have on your "Close Friends" list, as I've put people on that list who I know rarely access facebook, and they started showing up immediately in the 6 box. It's also people you've messaged, regardless of whether you have any other interaction with that person. For example, I sent a couple of messages to my son's parent about a play date, although I never visit that person's profile or like any of their comments. I've even added that person to the "Acquaintances" list. That person shows up in my 6 and 8 box frequently.

I was hoping that the guy I have a crush on was viewing my profile because he frequently showed up in the 6 and 8 boxes, even when I tried not to view his profile or like his comments. I figured out that he shows up in both boxes because I have him listed as a "close friend." When I take him out of "close friends" he goes away from the 8 friends box until I briefly add his name back to "close friends" to check up on his likes, etc. I usually only add him back to the list for a couple of minutes, then take him out again, but that's enough to have him showing up again in my 8 friends box.
i'd say your right it can make a difference, however, the person i'm on about mainly isn't on my close friends list - in fact i have not got any now in that list, and not messaged that person for a month. Not viewed since saturday as i previously said. I can see all that might have a bearing though... remember FB mobile on the iPhone for example is totally differennt to that on PC, depends where they are viewing from... –  Derique  Aug 21st, 2012 at 7:38 AM


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Portlandia, I agree with the messaging thing. I have a couple of people in my 6 list, who I never interact with and I have NO reason to believe they would stalk me-nor do I ever visit their profile myself. The only interaction we had was that we recently messaged each other for some work issues. After that I see him stuck in that 6 list and occasionally on the 8-friend list too

Though I have to disagree with the close friends thing. I have NO ONE on my close friends list, nor did I ever have anyone there. Still my 6 list does not seem random at all.

PS: I'm the person who did the "close friends" experiment above and when I added the most random person ever in my friends list, he immediately appeared on the 6-list fro a couple of days. Then after I removed him, he disappeared and never reappeared again.

I'm inclined to believe that people you see on YOUR 6-friend list may have added you to THEIR "close friends" list. But I have no evidence about that so far.

PS: Another interesting observation. I picked another TOTALLY random person from my friends list-no interaction whatsoever since we became friends, no reason for us to stalk each other or anything, I didn't even know she existed. Ok so, I stalked her HARDCORE for a few days. Visited her profile all the time, when through her pics a million times, went trough wall posts/likes/friends list etc every day. She has NOT appeared on my 6-box or 8-box at all.

Also, when I type the first (or even first 2) letters of her name in the search box, she does not appear. On the other hand, people who are NOT my friends, but are good friends with the top people in my 6-box, do appear in the search box when I happen to type their initials. What gives?

From my observation the (my) 6 list consists of:
-My actual (2) best friends, with whom I have A LOT of MUTUAL interaction.
-People I recently messaged or messaged me.
-People I have EVERY reason to believe stalk my profile and/or may have added me in their close friends too. (My ex boyfriend's OBSESSED ex girlfriend, a guy who has told me a million times he likes me and a guy I who I rejected at the beginning of the year and ever since he's been on both my lists forever! He's ALWAYS in both). Also a guy who admittedly had a crush on me and another guy who has a crush on my best friend. (but he's not her friend, so visiting my profile is the only way he can stalk HER.)
-Other people I have frequent interaction with (wall post/mutual tags/occasional messages)-but not as much interaction as with my best friends.
-a couple of kinda random people, whose profile/cover pics or updates I occasionally like (they do not like mine though, so it's not mutual)

In the above particular order too!

Oh! I also see all the time my best friend's boyfriend-both in the 6 and in the 8 list- with whom I have NEVER had any facebook interaction. He's there all the time. I guess it could be because he has a lot of interaction and is "in a relationship with" the top person I interact with. (??)

I think people who view YOUR profile/photos etc frequently may well appear on the 6 list frequently.
Side note: I NEVER visit all those people's profiles. I only visit my 2-3 best friends' profiles to make posts on their timeline. So for me, visiting THEIR page is not an issue for them to appear there.

QUESTION now: When I see a person's friends list (the whole list) , is the order I see their friends the same order THEY see their friends? Thanks!
for the random girl you stalked as a test -- give it a few days/weeks. i think when facebook resets their algorithm, she'll probably show up. that's what happened for me. –  tiff  Aug 22nd, 2012 at 3:50 AM
*UPDATE*
omg! The random girl I purposely stalked just appeared on my 6-friends list today! I saw her and thought who the "fuck is that"? Cause I constantly get the same pics up there and a different one stands out! Then I visited her profile and realized she was the one I was "stalking" haha! damn! This thing is getting more and more weird! tiff you were correct!

Experiment I'm doing now: I've made a dummy account to stalk my own profile. So far it hasn't appeared on the 6 list. I also had the dummy account add me to his "Close Friends", but I did not add him to my close friends. Nor am I visiting his profile at all. I'll come back here when I have results from this experiment. –  randomname  Aug 24th, 2012 at 5:22 AM
However the random girl's name still does not appear at all when I type her initial letter in the search box. –  randomname  Aug 24th, 2012 at 5:33 AM
*UPDATE #2*
The dummy profile I've made to stalk MYSELF has not appeared on the top 6 or bottom 8 list. Also, the totally random girl I stalked stopped appearing on my top 6 list. (I have stopped stalking her of course for quite some time.) Though, the rest of my 6 list remains exactly the same as it has been since about a month ago, with 1 or 2 additions of people I added recently. –  randomname  Aug 27th, 2012 at 10:04 PM


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randomanme--I think the person's friends list you see if different from the order they see it. Just check by setting up a dummy account to view your friends list. It is totally different from the order you see when you view your own friends list through your own account. When you do the latter, it is totally random. When you view from another user's perspective, it looks to show their closest friends first.

I am tired of getting my hopes up by seeing my crush appear in my 8 box over and over. I have never appeared in his, although he has 10 times more fb friends than I have. He shows as one of my top friends, but I believe that is only because he's the highest on my keesh.


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If you type one single letter at a time A - Z on the find people bar, you will notice Facebook will show you the same friends you constantly see in the 6 friends box...


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I think what is clear.. is that it is a combination of everything that people say here. It is random selection, plus a mixture of the people they chat too, people they interact with and so on.
It can give you an idea of what people are doing and with who. There is NO DOUBT about that. Two people chat alot.. they will appear in each others boxes... a random may pop up in the box as well.. perhaps just to make up the numbers if you havent interacted with more than 8 people. It is scary. Facebook say they wont reveal who you interact with.. but they do.. every minute. every second on everyone's page.


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I don't think anyone is "stalking" anyone on my page, but I am already finding it EXTREMELY Annoying that the same 8 pictures are stuck in my lower Friends box. I hate it. HATE, I say!!!


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I recently added someone, who is now appearing in the 6 box, but even more odd is that when I click on 'find friends' his entire friend list (even those with just him as the 1 friend in common) is coming up.
Anyone else looked at their 'find friends' recently? This is just bizarre!!
I have found that it does this with anyone you've recently added. –  Athalia  Aug 25th, 2012 at 3:19 PM


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Woah guys.. Just found something pretty fascinating!!

-go on facebook
-right click the background page
-click on view source code
-search "orderedfriends"
-copy first set of digits
-put these digits after Facebook URL.  Ex: http://www.facebook.com/DIGITS-HERE

These digits in order (which have all the #s of ALL your fb friend's profiles), and MAY BE the people who interact with your profile the most.

^I personally don't know if that's the case. But I did put the first 5 sets of numbers, and noticed it DIRECTLY coincided with the order of your friends on the chat box. Remember when you could drag it up and down to see which friend was on what spot on your fb friends chat list, though you can't anymore apparently.!
Just checked out the code.

It IS the order of your friends on the chat bar actually, as the code lists this, before providing the value of your friend's fb profile #s in order:

'{"chat_multi_typ_send":1,"chat_sidebar_hovercards"



Now the only question is, what exactly does the values for the chat bar #s take into account anyway? Could it really be friends that interact with you the most that are ordered first, or could it be mutual, etc.? –  nameless  Aug 26th, 2012 at 8:36 AM
Or could it be people you interact with the most.. Hmm. /= –  nameless  Aug 26th, 2012 at 8:38 AM
Sorry for the quad post.

Actually it might not have all your friends in the source code. I have less than 200 friends, but some people who have over 300, are reporting less than 190 are on the source code. –  nameless  Aug 26th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
No we can't drag the the chat list anymore, they blocked it and it's not just a coincidence. Soooo it tells a lot because it was the truth you know.... Facebook people are on this site. They read every little things. –  Stranger  Aug 26th, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Ok this is creepy as f%ck! I tried this and the profiles I got on top 1st of all are consistent with the 25 friends in the 6-friends list. 2nd of all the orders of the profiles I got (he #s I got from the source page, which lead to the profiles)was as follows:
-First were the few people I MUTUALLY interact with a lot! And I mean A LOT.
-Then I got the people who I suspect stalk ME.
-Then the people who I MYSELF stalk. (lol!)
-Then the people whose status updates/photos etc I occasionally like, but I have no mutual interaction with them.
-Then I got the random people, who are on my friends list but with most of whom I have no interaction whatsoever.

The very 1st person was the one I have THE MOST mutual interaction with, the very last person seemed to be THE MOST random person on my friends list. I didn't know who she was or that we were even friends lol!

To sum it all up, NOT random at all. 2nd inference of all the above, facebook know what they're doing to keep us intrigued and have us discuss all these things, constantly go back to our/and our friend's profiles, refresh, go back again and again blah blah blah.... They get the clicks and the traffic and hence more ads and more revenues.... Meanwhile, us-poor users-give it our best effort to find out what's going on and figure out the evil mind games of those evil (but NOT random) algorithms.... –  randomname  Aug 26th, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Actually, you still can drag the chat list, but you need to install "Facebook Messenger for Windows".
The ID list follow the way people appear/disappear in my Messenger for Windows.
And I don't have the same order than in the keesh list. (almost the same, but there's some people not at the same position) –  Jane  Aug 26th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
^^Actually, you don't even have to download fb messenger for windows. I discovered the other day that you if you turn on the chat, and then move it up and down, and then turn it off, is how you can see who is ranked in what place via fb chat. –  nameless  Aug 26th, 2012 at 8:27 PM
What is the background page? The logo on the top of the page? –  unc3ns0r3d  Aug 27th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
@ unc3ns0r3d Just go to your profile(timeline) page and right click on the light blue background. Select "View Page Source" and search for "OrderedFriendsList". The #s you'll get correspond to facebook profiles. If you copy and paste them after "facebook.com/########" (Where ##### > the number) it will lead you to the corresponding profile page. –  randomname  Aug 27th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
@Stranger what do you mean by we can't drag the chatlist anymore? you mean the bar in the middle? I can still drag it, but need to refresh to get a different list –  StupidGirl  Aug 29th, 2012 at 2:20 AM
Yes, the bar in the middle. You can still drag the bar, but it's harder to see the top friends, when you drag the bar up and down. . You now just can't see the position of your top friends, when you drag the bar up and down in offline mode. You have to turn on fb chat, drag the bar up/down, and then turn it off to see your top friends, every time. –  nameless  Aug 29th, 2012 at 6:25 PM


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I just upgraded to timeline. So confused about the recent friends list. Around 70% are people i expect. My friends I facebook a lot. There are some randoms, like family members who I don't interact with much on FB. But maybe they are checking in on me.

The most puzzling (hopefully promising) is my crush. He keeps showing up. I am actively avoiding his page. don't want to look like a stalker. ;) But I am interacting with his posts too (he posts like 5-10 times a day, and I'll comment on a few of them). I post anywhere from 2 to 6 times a day, depending on what the day looks like. He has been liking/commenting as well. But is he also profile stalking. I'll never know! Is he a frequent visitor? I hope so!
You don't have to constantly look at his page to be considered as a "stalker." If you regualry comment on his posts, that is showing stalker behavior. –  nameless  Aug 26th, 2012 at 11:33 PM


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@marie: my gf stalks me much more than i do to her, i do visit her profile once in a while but definitely not as much as she does to me. we communicate via FB chat rather than post on each others walls.
oh, and i appear rather high on her friends list. im at the 3rd or 4th row. –  Jake_hol  Aug 27th, 2012 at 10:42 AM


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so based on most of the comments, friends list shows whether ur friend is stalking you. If you find yourself at the bottom of your friends list, just forget about him/her and move on with your life.
I'm starting to think it's the other way around, or mutual interactions.

I've noticed that every time you comment, like, or tag someone, they will go up your friends list hours to days later. They will almost always bump up all the way up to my top 5 rows, and this usually lasts for a few days to a week. But some people do stay for a while after, either in the top 5 rows or right under. –  nameless  Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:44 AM
I think certain people staying for longer than a week, may depend on how much you continue to interact with them, including other ways such as page and photo views.

Man, I've been posting here since April.. Far too long. Truth is.. Should we really give a damn if someone is stalking us on fb or not, whether they are our crush or not? It's better just to hit that person up in person or over the phone and start something, then waiting on the sidelines about what could have been, and over analyzing and obsessing about algorithms that constantly change, *many that we might have never been right about in the first place. –  nameless  Aug 29th, 2012 at 4:47 AM
I think somebody needs to test this. While I'm pretty confident that how high people's friends are ontheir friends list is based mainly how much they interact with their friends than vice versa, it would be nice to confirm.

Again like I said before, usually when I comment or like someone's status, they pretty much always suddenly move up to my top 5 rows in my friends list(if they weren't there before), and will stay there for a day or two. Sometimes after that, they will bump down to the next set of friends(for me personally, its rows 6-13), and stay there for a long time, pehaps indefinitely until you interact with another friend more, to bump them down further. However, I'm not 100% sure if friends viewing our page right after we like/comment them, causes the bump to top 5 rows, or if its just our interaction alone. I personally think it's the latter, but this needs to be tested with a fake account.. Like..

Have a fake account, and make a status update with fake account. Then proceed to like or comment on your fake account's status with your original account. However, do not have your fake account interact with your main account in any way, and then go to your main account's friends list, and wait a few hours to a day or two, to see if fake account bumps up in your friends list(especially to top 5 rows) temporarily. If fake account gets bumped up a couple rows, without your fake interacting with your profile in anyway right after, then I think it almost proves that the orientation of your friends on your friends list, is one-sided(aka based on how much you interact with them).

^^this can take as long as a few hours to a couple of days. –  nameless  Aug 30th, 2012 at 8:48 AM
FB user, did you mean to say , "if you find yourself at the bottom of your *friend's friends list, just forget about him/her and move on with your life" or" finding yourself at the bottom of your friends list." aka how you originally typed it? With the latter, that's impossible. You can't see where you are ranked in your own friends list.. Did you mean the former? –  nameless  Aug 30th, 2012 at 8:57 AM
I just want to say that, as far as I can tell, the fact that we are at the bottom of a friend's list does not mean that person does not visit us. I do visit at least half the friends that appear on the bottom of my friend's page, I just have not made my 'presence' known. In fact, some of them I visit more than others that show up in my middle section (I only have 3 sections). –  AB  Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
I think one's orientation on a friend's friends list, is more heavily weighed on interactions such as likes, comments, and tags. But I do think that page and photo views might be weighed in as well. Again, I'm not 100% sure if friends list is mutual interaction or mainly just how much you interact with them. I do think it's not a good way to see if friends stalk your profile or not, via their orientation on your friends list.

Like I said before.. Someone who already has a dummy account needs to try what I said last night and report results.. –  nameless  Aug 30th, 2012 at 11:18 PM


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I made an experiment with my fake account to see who shows up in my crushs' 8 friends. I went to his timeline and saw myself there. When I went to his profile with my real account all other people were the same except I was replaced by another woman (who happens to be our mutual friend). I have suspicions she interacts with him over FB by messaging etc. so that would not be a surprise as such. She shows up also in my 6 box frequently. So - makes me wonder who his real 8 friends are - the ones I see from my own account or the ones viewed with the fake account as a non friend ? Could FB really know that both my FB accounts are from the same IP address and thus show myself there when using my fake account (the same thing happened when I logged on with my iPad with mobile network though). Or is FB trying to prevent us from seeing that we are in fact in some of our friends 8 friend box ? This is so confusing.. He keeps showing all the time in my 6 box, sometimes for several days in my 8 friend list and he is all the time in my top 5 rows in my friend list.
I also made the same experiment with my daughter's laptop. Looked him up with my daughter's FB account, my fake account and my own account. The same thing happened - when looking at this profile with my own account I was replaced by this other woman.. Has anybody noticed anything similar ? –  confused  Aug 30th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Yes. When you visit some friend's timeline you never see yourself in the 8-box or in the 6-box, even if the friend does. –  AB  Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
what AB said^^ You'll never be able to see yourself on a friend's top 8 on their timeline, unless you use another account to view your main account

. If a mutual friend says in the #8 position of the top 8 friends, no matter how many times you refresh, then it's actually you on his top 8, from his POV. BTW, check his friends list too. If you're pretty high up on his friends list, then it is almost certainly you. Top 8 friends are taken from the top 5 rows, and the second set of rows down below that(but how many rows that comprise of the second set, after top 5 rows, depends on how many friends you have total). –  nameless  Aug 30th, 2012 at 11:13 PM


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I think I have found the stalkers in the code there is another list of friends similar to the keesh list of ids that comes up under PresencePrivacyInitialData in view source. I know for certain that the list makes sense if they are my stalkers. Number 1 is someone I have never looked at as he gives me the creeps but I know that he took a shine to me when he first met me. Most in the list I never look at so I can't see that it can be anything other than people who look at my profile. I looked under a friends name and she had no ids at all so not sure what that means perhaps there has to be a certain level of views for them to show up in the first place. Would be good if others could confirm if their list meets their expectations on who they suspect their stalkers are.
How do you do? Pleaaaazzzzzz –  Stranger  Aug 30th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Go to your facebook profile page -> then right click, and select "View Source" (Alternatively, you can click "Edit" on your browsers menu bar, and then select "View Source") -> then in the HTML code you want to search for "PresencePrivacyInitialData", to do this click on Edit -> Find...

Keep in mind, I tried this and did not come across any noticable matching IDs under "PresencePrivacyInitialData". –  Answers  Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:21 PM
What Answers said. Anon, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't see friend's fb IDs after ["PresencePrivacyInitialData",[]. I see a list of numbers after, but they start off with, m869708_30." I have no idea what they stand for. –  nameless  Aug 30th, 2012 at 11:25 PM
anon -- i think those are people you have blocked on chat. at least it is for me.

it seems if they have a "-1" next to their ID, then you have them blocked. i also have an ID with "1" next to it -- i'm thinking that person blocked me. interesting..... good find! –  tiff  Aug 31st, 2012 at 1:02 AM
i take that back -- the "1" doesn't represent people who have you blocked on chat. –  tiff  Aug 31st, 2012 at 1:13 AM


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nameless.. yes I meant to say our friend's friends list..


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I found something interesting with "PresencePrivacyInitialData" stuff. For me, the numbers listed are classified in two ways. 10 digits and 15 digits.Somehow, I am quite sure that 15 digits are my stalkers and I0 digits are mutual interactions (equally). Because I dont visit many of 15 digits profiles but I am sure they are visiting my profile. and some 15 digits profiles which are last in keesh list and at the bottom of my top 5 rows are in the first line in this "PresencePrivacyInitialData" list. Most of the 10 digits profiles are my friends whom I interact with more.

My list doesnt match exactly with keesh list except some. Can anyone confirm this?

Anon, did u notice the 10/15 digits in your list or is it different ? And the first person you mentioned in your list is a 10 digit er or 15 digit er?
You're maybe right. But what about unfriend people? I can see them on my keesh list, but not on this one. –  Stranger  Aug 31st, 2012 at 3:11 PM
FB User, I'm not quite sure that your digit assumption is correct, because these numbers are not specific to YOUR list. It's the number that facebook has assigned to each persons profile.

Ps: Interesting observation: Guys try to google and especially "image google" these numbers. You may come across some VERY interesting results in some cases. I have to say, NO privacy whatsoever with facebook....It's kinda scary... –  randomname  Aug 31st, 2012 at 3:33 PM
I'm still very much confused about what you guys are talking about. You guys are talking about the set of numbers that are between ["OrderedFriendsListInitialData",[] and ["PresencePrivacyInitialData",[], right?

This is what I brought up/posted 5 days ago. –  nameless  Aug 31st, 2012 at 8:07 PM
Yeah, I agree that the list doesn't necessarily match one's friendslist or keesh list.

What if...?

-Keesh list is a list of value of who you're interacting/stalking with the most, with a possiblity of some slight mutual interaction. People who mutually set themselves as "family members" will consistentally be high on the keesh list, regardless of how much you view them.
-Friends list is a list of who've you interacted with as of most recently, and on a consistent basis, as well as some mutual interaction in the mix possibly
-chatlist is a list of who's interacting/stalkng with you the most

Nah, it can't be that black and white simple. Or at least not to me.

My opinion on

1. Keesh list. Pretty much everyone I've seen on my keesh list, I'm very confident I interacted with their profile, even once, or if they aren't my friend. I don't recall any random stranger I've never seen before on fb. I do think keesh list is more heavily based on your interactions with friends, than vice versa, but mutually listed family members will be consistentally up there on the list, regardless of how much you interact with them.

2. I definitely think it has to do with recent interactions and how much interaction has been happening with a friend on a regular basis for set amount of days/weeks/months. Just don't know if its mutual, and if it's mutual, how much mutual. I'm still fairly confident now that the orientations of our friends on our friend's list, is based more on our interactions with friends(specifically likes, comments, and tags), than more mutual though, andcertainly don't think it's them stalking us.
3. chat list. I dunno. These are all people I've interacted with some way in the past. Two being ex crushes, with one I don't interact with anymore really, being #5. Don't want to dwell on it. –  nameless  Aug 31st, 2012 at 8:32 PM
triple post again..

People who mutually set themselves as "family members" will consistentally be high on the keesh list, regardless of how much you *interact with them. –  nameless  Aug 31st, 2012 at 8:33 PM
Regarding the 10 to 15 digits - this appears to relate to people who created their own usernames versus those who didn't create one and thus FB assigned them a user name. I kind of verified this comparing my real account and fake account as well as looking at some of the accounts of friends. I wanted to believe there was a distinction between IDs that began with 10000 or 100001, etc, but it appears it is just based upon whether you created your username or waited for FB to assign one to you. –  reMainnaMeless  Sep 3rd, 2012 at 5:04 PM


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They are not people I have blocked on chat I have chat on and can see some on there now.


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Has anyone else noticed that the list of 6 friends is slightly different when you log into fb from your mobile? I do not use the fb app, I log in using the browser on my phone. The list I get still shows the same friends, but rotates among 10-12, rather than 25! (as it does on my pc) Some VERY 'regulars' on my pc don't show up on m phone. I was wondering if this happens to anyone else too. And why?

This list has gotten me very curious in general lately! I'm starting to explore it! The diacussion here is the best I've found so far!


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I am trying to figure out whether private messages or frequent chats impact the friend list - should these 2 persons communicating privately show up high in each others friends list? They do not post a lot - only some pictures posted now and then so they do not interact publicly that much by liking each others posts.
Yes, I can definitely say private messages over time have a large impact on the 6 friends box, the main friends list, the "orderedfriends" list (found in your profile pages HTML code) and the keesh list.   

The same can probably be said for Chat, but I haven't used chat much, so can't say for sure.

If you think about it, it makes sense.  If you consistently talk to someone over PM or IM, facebook is going to consider you and this person you communicate with closer than most, since this is direct 1 on 1 communication.  This actually may be one of the biggest 'tells' you can give facebook, besides you visiting (stalking) someones profile constantly or a friend stalking your profile. –  Answers  Sep 2nd, 2012 at 2:30 PM
I can confirm the private-msg thing too. I have people constantly showing up on the 6-list, with whom the ONLY communication we've had on fb was private msgs a while ago. I can also confirm that on the 6-list you also get the people YOU stalk. I am the one who did the experiment of stalking the most random friend I had, and she appeared on the 6-box after a few days of fake-stalking. She disappeared for a couple of days, but now she's still constantly there.

I also have the suspicion that u also get on that list the people who stalk you, but I cannot confirm this obviously. Though I see people there with whom I have no fb interaction and who I know have many reasons to stalk me. Anyway, too much analysis for this for now! –  randomname  Sep 2nd, 2012 at 4:40 PM
Thanks for the comments. When I keep refreshing my profile page, It just makes me crazy to see these 2 people (my crush and another woman who is our mutual friend) circulating back and forth in my 6-box at certain times. From what I have read here and experienced myself, if a person keeps showing in your 6-box 3-4 times consecutively when you refresh, it means they are online. As they are not posting/liking anything, my assumption was they are on chat but have hidden it from others. Maybe I am just paranoid :) They are not listed in the top 10 rows of their friends lists and I havent's seen them on each others 8-list either. Their 6-box I cannot be sure about as it doesn't look like the real one when viewed from a fake/non-friend account. So if you are right about that PM and IM should result in a close friendship (being in the 8-box and high in the friend list), I am hopefully wrong about their relationship! –  confused  Sep 2nd, 2012 at 5:30 PM


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has anyone noticed the "suggested friends" algorithm seems to have changed ? I still believe that the suggested friends list is the stalker reveal. But now it only seems to reset every couple of days, or when you go to the Find Friends page it is a shorter list than the suggestions that pop up on the right side when you are on other pages. The person I am sure is my stalker generally always has the same 3-4 friends on my suggested friends list.

Of note, the guy I am sure is stalking NEVER appears in my 6 box on the browser page, not even if I add him as a Close Friend. But he is often on the mobile app 6 box. If I add him to my acquaintance list he disappears from the mobile app 6 box. Every couple of weeks he appears consistently in my 8 box, but I am convinced the 8 box rotates a different set of friends every few weeks. He is #1 on my Keesh list by a large margin, #1 on my Ordered Friends List using the HTML coding, etc. But I do not appear in his first 15 rows of friends when I look at his friends list. I am thinking of adding him to the restricted list just to see what happens with the rankings and keesh list numbers and the suggested friends list.
How often do you interact with him? Page views, photo views, likes and comments?

Liking and commenting on his statuses and pictures will bump him up to your top 5 rows, or the second set of rows after, which is how the top 8 friends are displayed--based on the first 2 set of rows. –  nameless  Sep 5th, 2012 at 7:27 AM


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After hovering in this page a lot, I noticed that 1 thing is common for pretty much everyone. 99.9% of the people here have their crush and/or ex constantly appear on their 6-friends list. A small part of this 99.9% staked their crush/ex, others not at all, others suspect being stalked etc.

imo, fb has a way of "detecting" such crush/relationships and make the appropriate person(s) appear on this list, to keep us interested and coming back. It wouldn't be hard to detect a crush for example, even if there's been no public mutual interaction at all. Some good mutual or one-sided stalking would probably be enough.

fb's bulls...t about the mutual interaction thing is partially true, but as I just said, bulls...t. Among the people I get in that list, the most regulars are: my crush, a guy I had a fling with but never checked his profile or interact with him, a guy who admittedly has a crush on me but I never check his profile but we message each other a lot. I think fb has a way of detecting these relationships. EVERYONE seems to have their crush/people who crush on them/flings/ex bf/gf appear there. It can't be a coincidence or random.
ps: Does anyone have any idea about the people who appear under "Mutual Friends" in the Friend Finder thing? It's a list of 3 friends-and rotates among 9-10 people overall. This list appears to be very consistent over time. For me it shows the 3 guys I mentioned above, the crazy ex-girlfriend of one of them, and the people I interact with A LOT.

Any ideas/experience about this list will be appreciated. I'm very curious. –  randomname  Sep 6th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
It's not a secret rocket science algorithm of some sort. What's the difference between interacting with your crush vs a platonic friendship? Nothing, other than you're focusing more on your crush.

Whoever you interact with the most, mutually, or stalking them, or if you two have lots of things in common(such as likes, as well as well as being tagged in photos), you're going to see them on your friends list, top 6, suggest like page list, friend finder etc.

I feel as FB puts them every page you go, for convenience sake and to "remind you" to interact with them more. –  nameless  Sep 6th, 2012 at 8:24 PM
I have also been wondering about the "Mutual Friends" list. The people on it are basically the same people that are high on my keesh list (3 relatives, my best friend, my crush and a few additional people). I have been observing for several days how the names appear on the list by comparing that to the 6-box by refreshing it several times in a row (the active people show are rotating in the 6-box and when they log in they usually appear a few times in a row in the top left lace). I think it has to do with when these people log in/get active in FB, ie.t he first person on the list is the most recent person to log into FB, And the list goes back to the "history" log in:s with every refresh you make. The list of people has been the same for quite a while for me but it gives to my opinion a pretty good picture of the activity of these people. 3 of the people that appear there were some time ago on my "close friends" list but I have removed them from that list a few weeks ago so I am not sure whether they appear there because of the former close friend status or just because they are interacting with me a lot. –  confused  Sep 7th, 2012 at 9:24 PM


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The 3-person mutual friends finder list really intrigues me the most amongst all. For me, it has showed: 1. the ones i've interacted the most often over time; 2. the ones i used to stalk but not anymore; 3. people who i suspect are my stalkers because i never visit their pages; 4. people who i recently added and interacted through comments and messages, 5. last but not least, my own bogus account who i used to stalk myself for testing purposes. The names largely come from the first 2 categories, with some new ones popping from Category 3,4 and 5 but will be quickly replaced by someone else.

So i believe this reflects your true top 10 friends list, which by definition is a mix of things, but if by any means we hope to find who stalks our profile, the mutual friends list is the best bet. To me i think it reflects mutual and stalking activities more than anything else, more true than the 6 or 8 friends boxes.

In fact, if you go to the html code page of the mutual friends list, search for the 3 friends names you see on the page, you would find their name appear on the page(it changes every time you refresh). The html code calls the friend's ID first, then generate his/her name. The KEY source code that determines the type of friends being called, are hidden in front with something like coeff2_action,engagement, eng_type, eng_src, which are facebook' own secret and by no means it will reveal in public. Coding is not my strongest suite. this is just my guesstimation. Anyone who is more experienced may continue.


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to continue with your argument, yes 99.9% of the crushes appear on our list, however we all more or less suspect or wishfully think they are stalking us back over the time too. Then we are simply facing a single impossible event in probability, you know it cannot happen to everybody. I'm not saying mutual views never happened. after all, curiosity is human nature. But It can also means you stalk him/her more than the counterpart does. The algorithm does take care of one-sided and mutual actions at the same time.


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I noticed in the past 3 hours that the #2 person on my chat list, changed 3 times. Within those 3 hours, I only saw 2 different sets of my top 8.


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i think i know for sure that the 3 persons that show up in the "mutual friends" list are looking at our profile, because a girl i've deleted (used to be my friend, i dont want to have anything to do with her anymore) has showed up in the list and i know from a mutual friend she is curious about me and asks questions about me around. so if she is NOT in my friend's list how can she be "suggested" to look for "mutual friends"? the others that show up are my ex and people i often interact with.


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hey i did so many research about who is viewing my profile from almost 1 year and after timeline.
My study and experience says:

Facebook shows people who you like to see, also people who r most interested on you in different ways. Facebook contantly changes the formula that you cant define a particular way to c stalkers. But if you are too much engaged on facebook you can see whats happening in there, as you know these people in real life and how r they to you. Thats why catching stalkers is easy.

But be careful, dont mix up your one-sided crush as your stalker, as facebook shows you both ;p
But it is true, i acknowledged, facebook give priority to mutual interaction or mutual stalking, not one-sided, whether your's nor your one-sided stalker.
You're not giving any examples? –  nameless  Sep 8th, 2012 at 9:47 PM
@nameless... i gave some examples in next comment. check page 6's 3rd comment –  belogical  Sep 9th, 2012 at 7:01 AM

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