How do the 6 friends photos at the top of Facebook Timeline get choosen?

if u want to remove him from both 6 and 8, then unsubscribe and put in acquintances...that would be enough.......and just for suggestion, " never keep ur x in ur frndlist if u really want to break up completely and move on with another guy, better block him :p".........................and i had the same experiences like you...........i blocked my x...then i started talking with another guy in fb, go in 2 dates, no public interaction in fb though.....then after couple of month i got problem with dat guy too...so we stopped messaging too.......bt he always in my close frnd suggestion, frequently in 6 box, search bar, 4th on chat room, under findfrnd 3, was on white listed frnds.....bt he is on middle rows in frndlist and nt in 8 box...................bt im 95% sure still we both think of eachother, and we check every movement in fb of eachother –  belogical  Nov 1st, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Putting someone on your acquaintance list doesn't remove them from your top 8. –  nameless  Nov 7th, 2012 at 8:46 AM

i never had that 20 person close friends suggestion box to begin with... –  tiff  Nov 1st, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Yep, I also noticed it doesn't appear. Did yesterday, but not today. Very interesting. –  Athalia  Nov 1st, 2012 at 9:11 PM

what the hell? It stopped appearing for me too –  randomname  Nov 7th, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Well, I’ve come to a tiny breakthrough this afternoon. I’ve put my celebrity crush in restricted and I’ve unsubscribed from his posts. I also unliked his band’s page. He no longer has access to my photos or most of my actions on facebook. I’m no longer going comment on anything on his page or even visit his page. If he notices and mentions something to me about it, then I’ll know if was interested. If he doesn’t mention anything, then I know he doesn’t care. End of story. Now I’m going to stop obsessing!!! :-) –  portlandia  Nov 1st, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Oh... @lila...I came to my breakthrough even before I read your post! We are just on the same wavelength today! –  portlandia  Nov 1st, 2012 at 11:12 PM

hey...ur observation completely matches with me!
and i really think its true dat we sud avoid dis cat n mouse game and act like adults if we really like smbdy –  belogical  Nov 1st, 2012 at 11:12 PM

@rfb: suddenly yesterday night i got the Close Frnd suggestion while checking a notification.....it had 19 frnds, first 3 frnds r my list cousins (with whom i have too much interaction), 4th one is 1 dummy ac of mine, 5th to 14th is all my listed relatives and my mom n dad ( with whom i dont have too much interaction in fb), 15th is the person i dated recently ( i bliv we stalk eachother, bt he is much more than me :p, we merely interact publicly in fb), 16th is real close frnd (who really deserve to b in Close Friend, i share news with her), 17th and 19th is some friends who cud stalk me bt i dont stalk them bt liked so many stuffs they posted

and i counted the position in close frnd suggestion from left to right –  belogical  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 12:13 AM

@lila, how are you sure the poke suggestions are people who haven't viewed you? For me it shows a couple of people who also show up on my close friends suggestions, in my 6 box and in my 8 box. I know they've looked at my page because they've told me. –  Athalia  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 6:36 AM

@Athalia: my observation is that people will become a Poke suggestion just like lila says, you visited them but they didn't visit you. But only if they didn't do this recently. I've come to think that some people who actually visit you AFTER they have become one of your Poke suggestions, are not automatically removed from that list.

@portlandia: It may be good for you to either go for it or move on, but I doubt if you did the right thing. If it was me, I'd think that you had either lost interest or that I hurt your feelings in some way, making you angry or so. Putting someone in Restricted is quite a bold move. He might even regret seeing you did this but never tell you. But you should do what you think is best of course.

@belogical: great news about the Close friend suggestions I think? Most people were put there just because they're your family members I think in your case. But especially the dummy must have stalked its way up to #4 all by itself right?

@lila: you have a point about not obsessing over a crush and doing something about it irl. The thing is that like with you and your crush, it isn't always so straightforward. We all have reasons why it's not so easy to reach out to your crush and get the thing going (either we or they might have a relationship already, they might be interested but not enough, they might be famous or at least way more popular than you, they might live far away, you might have ruined something with them in the past... the list goes on and on). For my part, I'm also interested in who might be my most devoted "fans" (normally I'd say stalkers here ;)) and it's my curiosity about how FB works and how we are trying to outsmart them. –  Rfb  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 7:48 AM

@rfb, yes!. and i think fb also calculates the how much time u spend on fb and within that time how much you spend on particur frnds, thats why my dummy is in 4th position ( i dont always log on to my dummy bt when i do i do it to check how my activity looks like to other frnds mostly). They scores the frndlist with family and relations and then add up interaction to each frnd, this is how it comes. –  belogical  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 9:07 AM

my closest frnd K is in 16th position, though she likes and comments every stuffs i share and we have high interaction in message too. And my present relation (its complicated) is on 15th position, though he checks every single thing i do.
But 2 months ago when i got CF suggestion most often, my present relation was on no. 4 and Closest frnd on no. 5 and Dummy on no. 6..........1,2,3 position was and still is filled by my brothers and sisters ( We have very high interaction in FB + listed brothers and sisters on FB) –  belogical  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 9:13 AM

I guess I am just curious if my ex visits my profile... doesn't really impact my life. I am way too hot for him now anyway! –  Cupcake  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 PM

@Rfb--I hear what you're saying about possibly hurting his feelings. I don't want to hurt his feelings, but I think I've become too obsessed with him, and he probably felt that too. Anyway, what do you know?...I wake up this morning and he's in my 8 box (the public one) and keeps coming up over and over in my 6 box. Did he notice being put on restricted and keep visiting my page to confirm it? I don't know at this point. It hasn't even been a day since I put him in Restricted. But I also deleted most of my posts from his band's page after I "unliked" it. Maybe I should just unfriend him and move on.

So there's another thing...putting someone in Restricted does not remove them for 6 or 8 box circulation!! Interesting I think! –  portlandia  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 1:58 PM

I don't agree with Lila on the poke suggestions. –  Cupcake  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 PM

@portlandia: you're right that when it's becoming too much of an obsession, then you have to find a way to end it. I meant that maybe he could think he must has done something wrong to you, after seeing you have suddenly removed everything at once. But I really can't judge what's best in your situation of course. I hope the both of you will be fine! –  Rfb  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 PM

@Rfb - Thanks for your concern. I really do appreciate your comments and suggestions, I wanted you to know. I removed my crush from Restricted but I don’t know whether he even noticed. Even people who are Restricted can still see your public comments and likes. What he may have noticed is that I deleted all of my comments and likes from his band’s wall! I also unsubscribed from him on SoundCloud and deleted our messages there! Maybe he does think I’m angry, but so far he hasn’t mentioned anything. He’s probably just wondering if my husband hacked into my Facebook account! :-)

Also, why does FB have Restricted people show up in your public 8 box? It’s a lousy algorithm! Those are the last people who should show up! –  portlandia  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 PM

@lila: Very true idd! What a coincidence btw, I actually believe a girl from another country who is in a relationship now might have developed a crush on me again (I think she did when we met years ago). This is one of the people I'd like to know if they're stalking me right now :)

Anyway, I'm thinking now that most people here actually do have a crush who stalks them back. That's probably the reason people went looking for answers, because they see their crush appear everywhere and want to find out why. I have tried to "fool" FB a few times by starting to stalk a few random girls (old and new friends). And I even inititated some PM conversations with them. But this didn't work, these girls never became so ubiquitous on my page as the ones I believe stalk me back. People with a real crush who doesn't show up in lists very much, probably aren't so motivated to come to this place. So that's the good news for us, now let's do something about it ;) –  Rfb  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Sometimes I feel like we’re all in some kind of group therapy session on this board. I know I come here to receive some kind of validation…that I’m not crazy and I’m not imagining that my crush might like me back. Things can be complicated in real life. I felt like I was sort of forcing his hand by putting my crush on Restricted, and that maybe he would finally admit that he likes what I have to say, or maybe even admit that he would like to meet me. However, you’re right, @Rfb, that maybe that whole thing could backfire. I think I will just play hard to get for a while, drop out of his conversations…maybe even say semi-critical things about his music in conversations he’s not part of! :-) –  portlandia  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 5:42 PM

"Sometimes I feel like we’re all in some kind of group therapy session on this board" LOL So true, that's terrible. –  Stranger  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Would any of you be willing to be my friend on FB? We could run experiments on each other. LOL I know I am weird. –  Cupcake  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Yes it's becoming more like that, also because after a while we've pretty much discussed all the features FB has to offer. And our goal of identifying our stalkers (even if you're only interested in your crush) is either gained or lost now. FB has removed all features that clearly identified our stalkers (whitelisted-friends, CF-suggestions box -still gone for me-, people stuck in 8-box corner... and our chatlists seem almost frozen). Where mutual interaction -or plain stalking- still counts, it's almost impossible to single out who's there for which reason (6-box, 8-box, mutual friend finder, all-friends list, maybe a bit of Keesh). So I don't have much hope we can identify any more future stalkers easily. But I do believe FB has kindly shown me my present ones by deleting those features after we uncovered them.

Finally, @portlandia: Good luck and since you have a husband, I hope you know what you're doing ;-) –  Rfb  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 6:41 PM

@cupcake, maybe I would :) But I have to think about it also. I made an email account at hotmail.com: rfb1234. If you email me there we can discuss if we could really do this testing and how :-) –  Rfb  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 7:11 PM

for me d case is lot different. I caught him stalking me in real life so many times bt i always ignored cause i thought he must nt b interested on me, i was 100% sure he wasnt. Then he started following me on fb, 1 day i mentioned on fb (actually on sm1 elses ststus) i am on a particular movie theatre, after a while i found him entering, he was freaking me out. Thats why i followed dis thread. We had 2 dates, bt we both scared and dont know what to do, and im super confused abt wht he wants and wht i really want and wht i sud do, tried to remove him frm mind bt i cant. –  belogical  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Holy &*(*&&^!! I just logged in with my dummy account! I am a "highlighted friend" on my crush's wall!!!

Right there in the middle of his wall it says..."Joe Blow" became friends with "Portlandia" July 6.

He is highlighted the same way on my wall!! What does this mean?? –  portlandia  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 10:34 PM

@All Please tell me what kind of friends are highlighted on your wall. People you follow really closely?? –  portlandia  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 11:10 PM

@portlandia, yes I tried to investigate the "highlighted friends" thing after you mentioned it here when your crush appeared on your own wall. I don't fully understand it yet. It's something FB does when people have a lot of interaction. I think it concerns mostly wall-to-wall stuff. The funny thing is FB can also do this when people only start interacting long after they became friends (or before the introduction of timeline). So when people don't go back on their own timeline, they might not even know themselves which friends are highlighted there. After you mentioned it earlier, I found around 7 of my own friends highlighted in this way. And I found myself highlighted on other peoples profiles on a few occasions as well. Mostly these are the same friends who are highlighted on my page also (like you and your crush). I haven't found a relation between stalking activity yet. But in my case it seems to be based on public interaction also. And what you finally can't know is if your stalkers removed this hightlight from their own wall after it may have appeared there because of their stalking.

Questions: how many other people are highlighted on his wall this way (also going back in time)? And if it is only you, does it make sense in the way that you are/were his #1 in wall-to-wall interaction? –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 9:12 AM

@Rfb, thanks for responding. And thanks for pointing out that I can remove it. I didn't realize that!

For a long time, the only highlighted friends on my wall were my crush and my mother-in-law! (LOL!) --I am on her wall too. Now there are 2 other friends...one who is very popular on facebook because she runs a blog that's popular, and I do follow her stuff, but not more than others, but she is on facebook A LOT. (I'm not on her wall) The other person is a woman I used to work with a couple of years ago, who is hardly ever on facebook and I care very little about. She must be completely random. (I see one person on her wall, but not me)

As for his wall, the other people highlighted are his wife (LOL!) (I see no one on her wall), a guy he's in a band with (he's on his wall too), a guy he must know in real life and he's in the 8 box a lot (he's on his wall too) and ME!!

By wall to wall interaction, do you mean do I post to his wall? No, but I participate in some of the threads on his wall. There is no way we are each other's #1 in wall to wall interaction or any kind of public interaction.

He has over 1000 friends, and I am randomly selected out of those random friends? I think not! So the question is, did my stalking cause us to show up on each other's walls? I certainly do not interact with him more than my other friends. I do know that my crush knows I'm alive and that we are near the top of each other's friends list (and he's way #1 on my keesh!) –  portlandia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 3:01 PM

@portlandia, it's getting more and more interesting all the time. When I look at my highlighted friends from before the introduction of timeline, these are all people who wrote on my wall around the time. It really makes sense for these. I checked again and now there is actually one person I suspect might stalk me. But there is some wall-to-wall interaction also, but very limited. There are other people who I became friends with around the same time, who would make much more sense to be highlighted! I still can't think of any rule which would apply to all highlighted friends I see.. –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 4:21 PM

@Rfb, Are you also highlighted on the walls of the friends highlighted on your wall? I first saw my crush show up on my wall several weeks ago, but I never thought at the time to check his wall. We've only been friends since early July. I assumed this was because I looked at his page a lot when we first became friends...I don't know. But it's weird that we're on each other's walls! It's like facebook is revealing to my crush that I stalk him! I fell like asking facebook about this!

Well I just posted on the wall of a mutual friend of ours (I wrote on his wall so that my crush could see!) that my crush and I our highlighted on each other's walls and what are his thoughts. We'll see if my crush reads that post and removes the highlight! –  portlandia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 5:08 PM

@portlandia, well for almost every feature on FB I have some kind of theory (either right or wrong), but for this one I really don't! I looked into it again and it just doesn't make real sense. For example: I'm hightlighted on the page of my best friend. He isn't on mine, but his younger brother is! I know the younger brother also but not very well actually. And I interacted with my best friend 10 times as much as with his brother. Most people highlighted on my wall aren't people I "stalked", but people I did view/interact with to some extent. Say people who would show up between 10 and 25 on Keesh. But it also isn't random, I do recognize people who wrote on my wall (but not necessarily a lot) and people on who's timeline I'm highlighted definitely also interacted with me. But I can't think of any rule that wouldn't explain who gets highlighted and who doesn't.

And you did an interesting thing there. Wonder what your crush will think of your post. I guess you provoked him to make up his mind in a way (whether he'll tell you or not). I don't think he'll remove it though. I'd only do that if I thought/was hoping the other person hadn't noticed yet ;-) –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 7:39 PM

@Rfb Aren't I sneaky in calling his attention to it? :-) In my 6 box my crush's pic was in it every refresh after I posted about it!! I think that means he was online (I know for a fact that he was online today)...and maybe he checked my wall to see if his photo was there!! He hasn't removed mine from his wall yet. It's possible that he, like me, was not aware that you could remove it.

The friend who's a mutual friend has not responded to my post on his wall yet. I think he's busy moving his house today. It used to be that my crush and I did not have any mutual friends, then I started chatting with this guy on youtube who is a fan of the same guy, and had posted some videos of my crush's band. Now the two of us are facebook and we go back and forth on wall posts about the band we both like (he is actually a real life friend of my crush, a top fan who has been on the band's guestlist and such). That's why I'm trying out some ways to try to push my crush's buttons...maybe see if he's following our posts. As I mentioned earlier, I've stopped cold turkey responding to things on my crush's wall or his band's wall, and deleted a bunch of things, and put him in restricted for awhile. I wanted to see if he'd notice and say anything. Maybe I'm reading into things too much, but he did say in a post on his band's wall that he "love his online fans." And he's been updating his status a couple of times a day, more than he normally does...maybe to see if I would respond??? –  portlandia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:10 PM

@portlandia: it could be, but it's always very hard to find out if there's a double meaning in such things (I woundn't know how).. –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 PM

@Rfb - An addition to the post saying "we love our online fans," now today he has posted several totally awesome photos of himself, which is rare for him. Normally other people post photos of him and tag him. He normally doesn't post his own stuff. I am busy drooling over them, but still have not liked or commented. He is not going to break me, dammit! :-)

About the Close Friends suggestions, are those the ones you get when you are checking out that list and on the right side it says "See list suggestions" or is it a different place? Because I seriously doubt any of the people on that list are my stalkers. They are the most random people, not people I think would have interest in me at all. Which is weird. Why would facebook suggest those people to me in the first place? Is that what makes you think they're your stalkers...because there are a lot of people you have no interest in so why would facebook think so? –  portlandia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 10:19 PM

@portlandia, interesting again! But if all of this is really a hidden message for you, I also think it shows he's not planning to tell you directly. If you really want something to happen, I'm afraid you'll need to take some risks yourself!

About the CF-suggestions: the ones on the CF-page itself are indeed completely random! I do have an interesting story about these actually. The very first time I checked this page (about a month ago), these suggestions were actually the same people I suspect stalk me (mutually). Totally corresponded with whitelisted-friends, top row of the 20 people CF-box and top of my chatlist. But after I kept refreshing and refreshing, FB seemed to think "hey, he's checking his stalkers" (that's what I made of it at least :)) and replaced them with the random friends I got ever since. This 20-friend box I'm so convinced about, could only be found on the Pokes page, and sometimes (but very rarely) at random moments on the right hand side of other pages. But I haven't seen it anymore in 3 days already. –  Rfb  Nov 4th, 2012 at 9:50 AM

@Rfb-It may not be a hidden message for me, but perhaps he's noticed my absence from his conversations and he's trying to lure me back? I think it could be. This morning we're in each others 8-boxes again...he's been in mine ever since I started ignoring him!! But overall, I'm sure that he's way more important to me than I am to him, so I don't know if he's that worried about it.

I think I saw the other "Close Friend Suggestion" list last night. It featured mainly the people I interact with the most...but my crush was not on the list at all. Weird? Maybe facebook remembers that I had him in "Restricted" recently? I really should have saved it to look at more closely...I just checked and got it again, no surprises! But it's possible they changed it to remove stalkers. –  portlandia  Nov 4th, 2012 at 4:58 PM

@Rfb--Update. I PM'd my crush for the first time this morning. Trying to get him out of my head cold turkey obviously backfired for me! I'm the biggest dork. Anyway, he answered my message immediately and we commented back and forth for about 20 minutes. He didn't say anything about me ignoring him, but I'm still not going to be liking all of his posts and photos. I'm going to let him make the next move. Ahhh...he just PM'd me again!!! Gotta go!! :-) –  portlandia  Nov 4th, 2012 at 6:45 PM

@Rfb--My crush and I have been messaging back and forth for over an hour. As I'm on the messaging page, I keep seeing at the side of the page a special "Close Friend Suggestion" which was just his name only. Could this mean that it suggests people you've PM'd? –  portlandia  Nov 4th, 2012 at 8:35 PM

What does everyone think about using a dummy account to track the "most popular" items that you personally post? When I log into my dummy account at certain times of the day or night, I can see in order of popularity all of my activity for that day. I am always curious when I see some older activity of mine is bumped to the top. It makes me think someone (hopefully my celebrity crush) is looking through my posts for whatever he finds interesting. For example, today after I spent a couple of hours PMing with my celebrity crush, I logged into my dummy account and saw that the items sorted by popularity were items were mostly photos of myself that I'd posted over the last week or so. The top one was a photo I'd posted last weekend.

What do others think of this theory? –  portlandia  Nov 5th, 2012 at 3:36 AM

Ahh...I love how sneaky I am! This morning all of the top stories when logging into my dummy account were 2 conversations I had about my celebrity crush our mutual friend (that happened days ago), photos of myself posted in the last several days, and political articles I "liked" (my crush and I talked politics a little bit in our messaging yesterday).

Ha!! I am so right about this!!! Have other people tested this?? –  portlandia  Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Ha! And I just checked! I was out of his 8 box for about 10 hours, now I'm back in again this morning!

My conclusion is that the 8-box will show some randomly rotating people who stay in there for a few days, and some will pop in and out for shorter periods due to the fact that you've interacted with them, or looked a their wall or stories. I am 100% sure of this now!! And remember you need to use "View As" or log in with your dummy account to see who is really showing up in your 8 box. –  portlandia  Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:39 PM

@portlandia, I've been reading all your latest reports now. I have to say I think it's very unusual for your crush to pay so much attention if he wasn't interested in you. I mean especially the time he takes to PM you back and forth. I might be wrong and of course I know neither of you, but to an outsider's point of view it seems he likes you back. In your situation I would worry most now what to do about this whole thing actually (also the 2 you being married) ;-)

I'm interested in your theories on the 8-box and following order of your posts. Since I don't post very much, don't have dummy accounts and don't have people in my 8-box as often as you do, I'm afraid I can't check this for myself. –  Rfb  Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:51 PM

@portlandia, oh and about the CF-suggestions: did you really get the 20-people box or only a handful of friends underneath each other on the right hand side of the page? In that case you could also check if there is a "see all"-link you can click on to open the box. Anyway, I can confirm that people you have under Restricted don't show up in the box. I tested it when I still could see this box myself. I predict that if you can see this box (again) and your crush isn't under Restricted anymore, he'd be in top row, left hand corner. –  Rfb  Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:59 PM

@Rfb --Yes, I think he might like me a little bit. But, yes, we're both married. Life is so complicated! He is on the road right now with one of his bands, so maybe he just has a lot of free time. I don't know!! He has not PM'd me since yesterday. I will probably have to initiate all conversations for the time being, but I have to take it slowly so as not to scare him off.

When do you think it would be safe to PM him again and not scare him off? I was thinking I would PM him on election night, since we discussed the election in our conversation. (Yes, I am keeping it clean! I haven't said anything salacious yet!) –  portlandia  Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:03 PM

@Rfb--Yes, I saw the full list. And yes, he was in the top right-hand corner. What does that mean? –  portlandia  Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:04 PM

@portlandia: for me: the top row appeared to be ordered left-to-right. So the person in the right hand corner would be #5. I'd expect your crush to be #1 for you, also because you guys are highlighthed friends on each other walls. And you have the PM's, comments, likes and your stalking. Do you remember who were the 4 people to the left of him? People you also interact with a lot, or maybe family? There could als be some good news if he's really your #5, top prove this box shows your stalkers. Because if it was based on your own (stalking) activity, I think he should have been your #1, right?

About when to PM him again, it's really hard to say. There's no general rule you should just try to imagine what's going on inside his mind. If I like a girl, I always enjoy if she sends me a message. But if you still have to make him to like you, I think you should just find a moment that would seem a 'natural' follow-up to the PM's you did before. It's more the content that matters then. So I think election night would be good? –  Rfb  Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:27 PM

@Rfb--No, I misspoke. He was my top left-hand corner, #1, not right-hand. Do you see that "Add to Close Friends" suggestion also when you're right in the middle of pm'ing someone. I haven't noticed it before, but maybe it's been there before.

So, I ask you this because you're a guy...if a girl PMs you and you're not interested in her that much, how long will the conversation go on, vs. if you are interested in her? I'm thinking, was he just trying to be polite because he knows I'm a fan? –  portlandia  Nov 5th, 2012 at 3:21 PM

@portlandia, interesting that he was in your left hand corner after all! It's still hard to understand the reasons (just your stalking or mutual). I've never seen the "add to close friends" option actually while writing a PM. I'll start watching it.

And it's quite a difficult question you asked me there! I'd always stay polite also. If I'm not interested, I'd stop asking new questions after the 2nd or 3rd message I think. But also if you are interested, it doesn't mean you always have to keep it going. Only if you really want it to lead somewhere. It really depends much on the situation and the people involved. Your crush really seems to be nice to you all the time. But in case he likes you more than just as a fan indeed, he seems to take care never making that obvious to you without leaving room for doubt. It's just that I think this doubting all the time isn't doing you good, right..? –  Rfb  Nov 5th, 2012 at 9:44 PM

@Rfb- Thanks so much for listening and for your comments. The only other person I talk about this with is a friend of mine who is always telling me I need to stop and “think about my family” in whether or not to pursue this, but I’m not sure of the harm since we live in different cities. At this point, I’m not even sure what sort of relationship I want with this guy! It’s all very complicated because of our relationship situations, and he’s probably wondering whether I just want to befriend him, or if it’s more than that. Also, his band is unlikely to come to my city on tour. At this point, he’s not going to come right out and say, “I’d like to meet you,” but he did hint that I should go to see his band in another town, and I told him that I hope to, but I’m not sure when. BTW, today he “liked” my status update today, but did not comment. I guess I will see what happens next time I PM him, whether he responds right away and whether I am asking all of the questions. Chances are he has various women flirting with him online. Perhaps he finds me more interesting than most. We do seem to have a lot in common. –  portlandia  Nov 5th, 2012 at 10:25 PM

@portlandia, I do think you'd be in tricky situation if you decide to continue going after your crush. To be honest, I also don't really know I'd feel right about myself if my answers might make you do so and who knows what will happen. It's just that I think it would be good for you to make up your mind. Unlike most of us here, for you this thread is more about dealing with your crush than just finding out how facebook works :-) I really like to help you and I'm trying but I just don't know if I'm truly qualified to do so ;-) –  Rfb  Nov 6th, 2012 at 7:49 AM

@Rfb--Yes, I've gone a little bit off topic. Thanks for putting up with me! :-)

Actually I'm wondering if anyone else has looked into my theory of checking out the top stories when you log into your dummy account. How do you all think facebook decides what your top stories are? –  portlandia  Nov 6th, 2012 at 2:54 PM

@Rfb--An update! Just finished chatting with my celebrity crush for over 3 hours tonight! Yay!!! –  portlandia  Nov 7th, 2012 at 6:31 AM

@portlandia, sounds great!! :) –  Rfb  Nov 7th, 2012 at 11:33 AM

@Rfb--Yes! My plan of waiting again until election night paid off. I was in heaven! My guy won AND I got to chat all evening with my celebrity crush about the whole thing!

Taking a chance sometimes pays off! –  portlandia  Nov 7th, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Aha hello group therapy... Just wanted to say, I did think that every time my crush appeared a bit more on group suggestions, pokes, tagged pics etc, it meant that I'd rolled over too much on him on the ticker, as I never visited his page for three months, - or really just 3 times- anyway I finaly went back to it, viewing pics and videos, plus been on his friends pages, well he's appearing less than before. And has gone down two ppl in mutual friends order. Maybe it takes time for fb to change this change of interaction.
Fb has had so much bloody influence, we haven't seen all summer, and - he's a musician- all songs had weird obvious meanings, he suddenly untagged himself to pics where he wasn't good,etc etc. But ahaa, this most probably was for someone else. So out of interest he may have payed attention to my pics or else, we're often bored on fb and look at all sort. So this find your stalker thing is really a huge illusion.
I still think there's something in the 8 box, ppl I visited or I know visited me turn up in there. Crush NEVER does. Good luck with your crushes, must react before I turn into a geek BridgetJones. –  marie  Nov 2nd, 2012 at 9:52 PM

@helloo...I don't think I understand the whole thing about the mutual friends and the three lists. Maybe I'm slow. Can you please explain? Do you have to have to have a lot of mutual friends with your stalker in order for this to work? –  portlandia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 2:15 AM

I very largely agree with most of your observation. About the 8th friend position thing long time ago, my theory is it could be a mix of stalkers and ppl you stalk. but it's not what it matters anymore.

I have something to share with everyone here and this is direct source of info from a friend of mine who is a system engineer at FB (yeah finally...my attempt in the hope to put an end to this all). He helped clarify a few points.

1. FB is a young company and it's been constantly changing and testing all kinds of approaches overtime. Many ideas are done through trial and error or beta-testing on a chosen audience as a sample group while having the rest as a control group. In other words, they are constantly doing social experiments with its users and they don't even know what the outcome is before they do it. Some idea (e.g. the whole Timeline thing ) could be generated solely from one person (e.g. they have an annual Hacker Day when the engineers do all day long is coding a new idea out of their mind. If Mark likes it, it could become reality. Timeline was born this way actually)

2. the coding on internet social interaction is hard to define unilaterally. Interaction itself is complicated, for it takes account into many elements as we all know. When putting it into computer language. Your side of interaction can be easily factored into the equation automatically which makes the result interesting and different case by case. A lot of times they don't necessarily foresee the outcome (i.e. whether or not it shows your stalkers). It's an ever evolving process and they are still taking baby steps on many features. It's not entirely impossible that they will take out the 8-friend box completely one day (the significance of which doesn't make sense to me from the beginning).

3. FB's revenue model is based mainly on advertising right now. In spite of Mark's good intention of creating a pure social community, we must keep in mind that the company is company. it takes responsibility for its shareholders and employees. As a result, fb puts huge amount of the energy on generating more ad revenue. Who you see and what you see could be mainly serving this purpose. If your friend ever likes a certain page or product, large chance is you will get to see him/her more on your end. It entices you to click the ad. Bang, as simple as that, may sounds cruel to you guys. It just doesn't have enough manpower or resource to devote to the entire guesswork game with you, or the"cat n mouse" game as others put it above.They actually seldom do data mining anymore.

4. the FB website and FB mobile are two independent teams. What you see on your website could be totally irrelevant with your cell.

Oh due to confidentiality purposes, my friend couldn't tell me more about the source code meaning. Whoever from fb monitors the website (i highly doubt), rest assured that your “secret" is safe=). Actually given what i said above, if my friend ever comes see my comment above, he will instantly realize who i am...meh, whatever.

What i'm not happy about fb now and this is also what i said to my friend is the fact that fb kept its users in a black box of what's going on. Knowing that we users are indeed part of the social experiment, a critical part if not the most, fb should've done better in communicating with us about the strategies in a more efficient and transparent way. Or maybe it's just too hectic with other matters, like ad generating. Whoever at fb sees this, take this as my personal protest. We're all victimized.

That's it. I'm jumping the boat now, g' luck to ya all=) –  teehee  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 AM

i got i wanted to know. FB showed me that when i wanted to know that. If fb change it nw i just dont care :D. And i also observed there is some people in this threAD tried to ruin the stand points ( proved ways of revealing stalkers) all the time, and seemed on purpose to me. Whatever...thank u FB, thank u all people here for sharing your thoughts, and Take care. Bye. –  belogical  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:44 AM

@helloo: how often did you visit your fake accounts back? Because one of my theories is that it takes a lot of stalking (and some luck that the fb algorithms actually pick up on it) to make one-sided stalkers appear anywhere. But at soon as it becomes mutual (even just a little) your stalker is going to manifest himself on your page.

@teehee: interesting stuff here. Corresponds with what I was thinking myself on some points. I believe FB was experimenting last week also. Both @randomname and myself noticed that when we visited a random friend and went through 10 pictures, these people could suddenly appear in your 8-box after the next update of it. I continued this experiment, and was able to move my entire lowest group on the all-friends list to my 2nd one!! At least for everyone I tried this, it happened. Chance decided who was also on the 8-box. Now, everything is back to normal. Apart from my @randomname, nobody mentioned it here and I also couldn't see evidence of this in my own friends lists. So I think we were part of a testing group there.

Oh and I'm VERY sure FB monitors this thread closely. We are actually very helpful to them I think. Real-life users spending a lot of time testing stuff frantically. While doing it for free and posting the results publicly. The disappearance of the CF-suggestion box finally proved this for me. I didn't dare to write about it here for a month because I was afraid FB would remove it before I had made enough observations. After I finally did, it took only days for FB to take it out.

@belogical: I sometimes wonder myself also if there are some moles on this thread! –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 AM

And I meant "me and @randomname", of course :-) –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 9:41 AM

@teehee, interesting points! I do think that fb is testing a lot of different things right now, because like you said it's a young company and they want revenue. Interesting thing I found on my page the other day was underneath the ads on the right hand side it asked me how close I am to one of my friends. Like if we were close or just acquaintances. I thought that was VERY interesting! Haven't seen that before, or since. Another interresting thing is that my mutual friends list updates once a day with a few new friend suggestions. Low and behold, it showed me someone who is friends with that person that fb had just asked me if I'm close to!! Don't know if that meant she viewed my page, but I didn't view hers, so it either means something or it's a coincidence. I think there's something to be said for the ad suggestions (which sometimes show with a message underneath like: "(friend) likes this page"), and also the recommended pages with things friends have liked. I used to think it was friends who had recently been online, but now I think there's more to it. I see links between those liked pages and the mutual friends list and the frequency at which people show up in the 6 box. –  Athalia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Another thing about the liked pages. I noticed that one of my friends moved up on my friends list and I wondered why because we had no interaction. But then I noticed that I recently liked a couple of things that she had also liked in the past (when you click on all your likes it shows friends who also like those things). –  Athalia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 AM

@Athalia, is there any reason you can think of why FB might wanna ask you about this particular friend? Because it happened to me too once! With my ex-gf who is high on Keesh (#2) but low everywhere else. I didn't get any notifications related to her since, but that might have been because I answered she's an acquaintance (which has been the truth for the last 4 years). –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 11:46 AM

@Rfb, nope, can't think of a reason. She's a classmate I had a class with earlier this year. I added her then, but we have had no interaction. –  Athalia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 11:56 AM

@helloo, you're probably talking to me instead of belogical here, right? I'm not sure I can follow your reasoning. I think you also mean you visited only 1 fake account back from your real account, right? Anyway, I'm still not convinced that this proves that stalking has no effect on the close friend suggestions as you say. It should be more mutual to begin with and also I would need to know what kind of people the 20 are which would appear in your box. The mutual friend thing I don't really know, I never have more than 20 mutual friends anywhere (and these our always just old classmates). And I think I only became interested in this after FB already removed it. –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I believe the first mutual friend shown is the one you view the most (not so much based on interaction as for me it seems to be based on the keesh list). So do you view your crush a lot? –  Athalia  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 2:35 PM

@ Athalia: i haven't been viewing profile since June.Before June,I was viewing it 1-2 times a week max –  lila  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Haha that's the same for me I haven't look for weeks [I thougt maybe he will be disapear a little bit] but no he stays there often at nr 1 or in the first rows... Ohthers do disepear actually when I don't look or interact!!! –  JX  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 PM

@all, my experience is that FB has a way of "freezing" Keesh values of people at the top of your list, as soon as they reach a certain treshold value. You must be getting bored with my ex-gf I mention here al the time. We broke up 4 years ago and interaction has terminated ever since. She's still #2 in Keesh. Once somebody is high up on your Keesh, you can only prevent them from going up much faster. But for them to go down again takes a huge amount of time. I do believe that FB also registers more recent interaction though. Because apart from the features that are highly dependent on Keesh (search bar, mutual friend finder, 6-box) she doesn't appear on others like Close friends suggestions 20-box or my chatlist. –  Rfb  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Well I watched him with my son's acount [who hasn/t have him as friend] and I was al little bit lower now in his list...but with 3000 friends i'm still in his top 20 rows. But in mine he is still there!! I;ve checked my family and my sisters in law also on my son's acount and i'm pretty high there also although i don't look at their's so much.. not at all actually.. And there also always in my 6 box.. Although i don't have a familylist!! I know they watching because some of them live in a another country and they told me they look at my pictures to let my mother in law see the pictures of her grandsons... –  JX  Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:07 PM

No the friends list doesn't work, a friend of mine purposly stalked me a lot and I've allways been near the bottom of his friends list, I had been on his profile a couple of times so as to make the interaction a minimum mutual. –  marie  Nov 4th, 2012 at 10:33 AM

People what about your tchat list's order? What says it? Crush I haven't visited or interacted with for 3 months mooves between 26 and 34, till today was n5 in mutual friends list with 50 friends.
So what about your tchat list? Appart from obvious interactions or stalking from your side, any order which could make sence?? Tks –  marie  Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I totally agree with you anna. If I visit a profile, or like/comment on something a lot of times soon after they will pop up in my 6 box..sometimes they stay there for quite a while(couple of weeks) but sometimes they disappear in a few days. And it has nothing to do with my keesh list. There are some total creepers very high on my keesh list, whom I have never visited their profile or had ANY communication with & they are glued to my 6 box allll the time(weird). I have avoided my crushes profile for the past few weeks & he is still in my 6 box, sometimes he shows up A LOT, sometimes it takes quite a few refreshes of the screen, but he is still there. He has recently been in contact with me by calling/texting/email (but never, ever have we communicated in any way over facebook) & I know for a fact how much he likes me..so, it only leaves me to assume he could possibly be checking out my profile because I am always on there..posting pics & whatnot. –  Gracie  Nov 6th, 2012 at 12:56 AM

@Rfb--I've noticed the same thing about things getting stuck. My (internal) 8-box has had my celebrity crush stuck in it since Sunday, while maybe one person shifts on it per day. and my external 8-box used to update a lot more often during the day based on recent interactions. But I can't complain! I love seeing my crush's face every time I log in! :-) –  portlandia  Nov 7th, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Stuck for me too. The only "news" is that the close friends suggestion box is gone AND I just noticed today that when I go to "Close Friends" and click on "See List Suggestions" it no longer shows ANY suggestions there as well. It used to show some (random though) suggestions. The 20 suggestions in the first box I mention above were more relevant.

Nothing interesting or new. Everything is stuck. This may mean that we were probably in the right way to discovering something. But who knows really? I'm surprised no one here so far works for fb or knows someone who does, so they could give us some inside info. –  randomname  Nov 7th, 2012 at 9:21 PM

@Rfb and @All---Remember how I mentioned on earlier about luring our crush or suspected stalker to an outside link where we can track information about views? Well, today I went to my Youtube channel Analytics page. Keep in mind, my crush just found about about my Youtube channel a couple of days ago. Low and behold...my personal uploads had several views 2 days ago from my crush's country of origin (he lives in Canada, I'm in the US). It could be a coincidence...but probably not! Why would some random Canadian want to view my vacation videos? :-) –  portlandia  Nov 8th, 2012 at 12:20 AM

@all, dont mind bt i have to say dis. If u really care abt sm1 go straight and talk abt random things, their mouth will tell u what u want. Stop guessing abt fb things. –  belogical  Nov 8th, 2012 at 10:04 AM

But it is fun to guess @belogical..And i know you are curious too because otherwise you would.nt be here.. I love reading this thread because everybody here has the same experiences and we know for one thing this all [6 box 8 box friendslist is not random] I certainly wondering about the friendslist because just when I think my top 10 they are on my friendslist because I look alot or have interacted by them, but when i am looking with another account [my son's] on our muteal friends [we have a lot of them] then I see myself quit a lot in front of the top 10 to people that are not in mine. I don't look at their profiles [just 2 or 3 times a year for birthdaywishes or something like that] So that is strange when they keeping up coming in my 6 box ... It is my family and i know that they are curious so I guess that they look a lot and I don't so they are lowlisted in mine. Have you find recently something interesting now @ Belogical?? Or is everything still the same to you. –  JX  Nov 8th, 2012 at 1:37 PM

@jx...changes r, whenever im liking any1s smthing they r getting up on search bar. And my chatroom and mutual frnd finder wasnt changed for almost 3 months, bt nw changed ( chatroom with more interaction and frnd finder with new stalker). Listed family got more value than b4.

And obviously im interested bt smhw dis guessing r unhealthy too. Many of us getting weak on rootless crushes, just on d base of who is viewing ur profile!!? I used to visit 5 boys profile for differnt interest, will i get marry each of them!!?? So whats d point in there. And boys r more playful. They cud lie infrnt of ur face, there u r considering who viewed ur profile!!!

Talk to ur crush, its more healty, his/her attitude n approach will give u answer. And more importantly its more necessary to talk face to face. Fb cant giv u an idea abt a person, it will make it critical.


And im sure 8 box never reveals ur stalkers bt might be d person u stalk. –  belogical  Nov 8th, 2012 at 2:43 PM

all i want to say is if u want to knw who visit ur profile, then this thread investigation is ok. Bt if u want to knw ur crush love u back or not, then it is nt a good idea. –  belogical  Nov 8th, 2012 at 3:21 PM

and frm my xperience, i knew slightly my present bf (its complicated) b4, bt we got close on fb. bt several time i thought he is very much arrogant and smtime i thought he is may be playboy type. bt when i met him face to face things got more clear. i can judge now whether our culture, interest matches or not etc. FB must be helpful, thats why we met. But judging ppl in fb is nt a good idea. –  belogical  Nov 8th, 2012 at 3:28 PM

No no I don't think so ,I have post something esterday en 2 people respond to it and i haven"t respond them back but they were there today in my 8 box!!
.. And he your right your or my crush must not be a obsession that is not healthy I know.. It is only a little bit exciting. For my part I haven't look for 2,5 weeks but he is releasing a new single so i twiitered him and guess what he was twittering back and he ends with a kiss. That's nice issn't it?? Even though i know in real life we are never gonna match... but it is a little bit of flirting I guess and I love to flirt.. –  JX  Nov 8th, 2012 at 3:31 PM

nt to advice, just saying wht i feel abt dis. Flirting is more unhealthy :P. Imagine now he is with his new gf or wife, how u will feel then? Or u have a husband whom u love more than any1 in dis world, how u will feel when sm stranger flirt with him?
sooner or later we all hav to face d reality, bitter or sweeter whatever it is. And finding a soulmate is very a serious issue, cause u gonna live with that person all of your life. PPl can be different. Im nt blaming any 1. :) –  belogical  Nov 8th, 2012 at 3:56 PM

I agree with you it could be dangerous but when you 2 both are single??? Then it is not a problem anymore. Flirting with otherman's husbands or wife is een nogo!! You're absolutely right!! –  JX  Nov 8th, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Belogical is right. Just because you're not in the 8 box of your crush, or at the top of his/her friends list, doesn't mean he/her doesn't care about you. And vise versa, it's not because your crush is everywhere, that he really cares about you.Some people are just very polite, or just love talking.Facebook sells dreams. Things are not what they really seem to be sometimes. We have to be very careful about someone, especially when you don't know that person. Talking face to face is more revealing than talking through messages. You can't really detect what the feelings are. –  Stranger  Nov 9th, 2012 at 7:05 AM

And , it's not because they don't answer when you talk to them, that they don't really care. Sometimes, people have problems in their private life. Facebook is not important, when you have problems. So that's why you have to see him/her face to face, if you can of course. Don't judge anyone by their attitude on fb. Appearances are sometimes deceptive... –  Stranger  Nov 9th, 2012 at 7:40 AM

No i don't think that is stalking, that's interest... But read the comments above in this thread if you want to know more about it... We all try to figured out the secret of FB.. –  JX  Nov 8th, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I think it depends on how many other people's profiles you view on a normal basis and how often you view them. It's all relative.

In unrelated news, my 8 box just disappeared!! –  tiff  Nov 8th, 2012 at 7:53 PM

If someone is listed as a close friend or relative, or is high on your keesh, they are likely to appear in your 6 box. –  portlandia  Nov 10th, 2012 at 6:07 PM

There are friends much higher on my keesh list, than those appearing in my 6 box. However they are not in my 6 box. They should logically. –  Stranger  Nov 10th, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Sometimes it just reflects who is online at the moment. –  portlandia  Nov 11th, 2012 at 12:16 AM

They are all connected with their phone., always online... I don't know, maybe there's nothing to understand. –  Stranger  Nov 11th, 2012 at 6:50 AM

I've continued to do this and my ex-girlfriend has shot out to a big lead even though I have not gone to her profile or interacted with her in any way on Facebook. We never were ever "Facebook official" so it's not like Facebook knows we were seeing each other. It also suggests that I should invite her to events. Facebook, you scary. –  Trent  Dec 9th, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Congratulations, I'm going to do the same, even if the answer is no. That's life. Cheers! –  Stranger  Nov 11th, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Stranger,
Good choice. The answer might be YES!
:))) –  Urban  Nov 11th, 2012 at 2:05 PM

umm fairly certain that that would be illegal if it's even possible. your friend could maybe get away with it since he is abroad, but if he is in europe i would be careful... my friend's dad is general counsel for FB in europe and they take their privacy extreeeemely seriously. –  tiff  Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:04 PM

sorry meant to reply below. –  tiff  Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:05 PM

I haven't noticed this on my chat bar but I have noticed something similar in my 6 box. Sometimes when I log on my 6 box has one person showing for a brief few seconds before all the others load. At first I thought it ws just a little glitch that took a few minutes to boot up...but recently since I have been paying attention I've noticed that is most def someone who has been on my profile because I will have a like or comment from one of those that pop up before anyone else. –  Gracie  Nov 12th, 2012 at 12:29 PM

did anyone elses' friends page just completely change??? 2 columns now but order of friends seems to be the same as before... –  tiff  Nov 12th, 2012 at 9:57 PM

@tiff -- yes, my friends list just changed, but I am still at the top of my crush's list--and he is at top of mine--when I log in with my dummy account. Weird. It may be something they're just testing for a while. –  portlandia  Nov 12th, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I've been tracking my keesh list for a while. It used to be that if you looked at someone a lot they would go up on your list, but now people only seem to go up on it if you interact with them (likes, comments, messages). interesting. –  tiff  Nov 13th, 2012 at 3:42 AM

@Rfb--I have tried to look for the situation you're talking about, but I don't see any pictures missing when I first log in. But I also usually have my chat bar sized so that only my crush's face shows. I do notice some faces popping up a moment after the rest in my 6 box, but I'm not sure why this happens. Is there a reason you're thinking these could be recent visitors to your page? –  portlandia  Nov 13th, 2012 at 3:52 AM

@portlandia: well, sometimes it seems to be people who I know might be interested in something I just posted a day before that or so.. They seem to be related in a way. But I know it's very flimsy evidence. I sometimes noticed the 6-box phenomenon too, but for me it's not really clear if that means anything. Too see it in the chatlist, it already has to be large enough when you log on idd. And it only happens to me a few times a week...

Btw: I noticed the friends list change. Can't say I really like it though. Because it takes up more space, I'd be less interested to scroll through the lists of my friends. I'm also not a huge fan of the new photo layout either. –  Rfb  Nov 13th, 2012 at 5:55 AM

OMG!!
FB is really a devil thing
If u r surrounded by Intelligent ppl n IT nerds, becareful b4 stalk any1.
Its really not hard at all to find out ur stalker or d person who just viewed ur profile. –  belogical  Nov 13th, 2012 at 4:30 PM

If that turns out to be true... –  julie  Nov 13th, 2012 at 4:48 PM

What Belogical you found out some new methods??? –  JX  Nov 13th, 2012 at 6:46 PM

I thought @belogical is making fun of this subject. To which I'd say, we all know we're playing a silly game here ;-) But if I'm wrong and @belogical really discovered something, I'd be interested to hear of course :-) –  Rfb  Nov 13th, 2012 at 7:02 PM

@Rfb...hahahahha. No, its nt like dat. One of my old frnd called me today and he said i went to his profile on around 14:00. I was really scared, cause i really did. He lives abroad, doing job on an IT firm. He is nt my crush and never been, i went to his profile to know about his job details just for interest. I asked him how he knws it, he said they run a program, it generates user ids and profile visitors can be found easily. Dont knw wht program they runs.
I firmly bliv there r so many hidden ways to find ur visitors, ppl just dnt spill it out –  belogical  Nov 13th, 2012 at 8:53 PM

umm fairly certain that that would be illegal if it's even possible. your friend could maybe get away with it since he is abroad, but if he is in europe i would be careful... my friend's dad is general counsel for FB in europe and they take their privacy extreeeemely seriously. – tiff 11 seconds ago –  tiff  Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:05 PM

@All--I don't know whether there's software that can tell you if/when someone visited your profile, however there was a story in the news yesterday that had to do with the the Petraeus scandal saying that facebook and Yahoo stamp your IP addresses and other information on correspondence, and that's how he got caught having an affair. I made a joking remark on facebook about changing from Yahoo to Gmail in light of this article, and I don't know whether it's just a coincidence, but my celebrity crush has not been in contact with me since then. Ooops! –  portlandia  Nov 13th, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Interesting stuff!! Very funny, I didn't think @belogical could really have found something this explicit ;-) Let's just wait if we hear more about this I think. Don't know if this method would be illegal though. Maybe it depends on whether it's considered hacking into the FB network? Because when it's just relying on information that FB sends out themselves (like Keesh) then I don't see a problem with it. –  Rfb  Nov 14th, 2012 at 6:16 AM

my point is ppl provided info in fb to view by others, bt whn we do it they r calling us stalkers. It cant be d definition of a stalker. a stalker is person who stalks u whereever u go n do and u dnt xpect any1 to follow or c u there. FB is public, u knw it, u do things on public to show, then why stalkers!!
bt i really hate those frnds who views everything i do and follow me on fb bt dnt put a sign of it (liking or commenting) and pretend dont knw anything. I dnt get them why they secretly do it!! –  belogical  Nov 14th, 2012 at 7:03 AM

That's why I have lists, because I also don't like people who are never like or commend to me or never have a status of her/his own but like to know everything.. And tghey know everything from everybody but never tell a single thing about themselves..So i've listed them now in public or in friends.. And it's impossible to unfriend them because they are always relatives and family. –  JX  Nov 14th, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Anyone got any interesting observations about the new layout of the friends list?
Also, has anyone else noticed a black line which occasionally appears in some friend's photos on the 8-box? What's with that? It's like a thin black line virtually "cutting" in half the photos of some random people. At first I though it was a glitch, but my best friend gets it too. –  randomname  Nov 15th, 2012 at 12:58 AM

@JX- yes i made grps too. smtimes we hav to keep frnds on ac though it annoying.

@randomname- i havnt found any line u mentioned. Bt i discovered my 8 box, it consists of d ppls pics or updates in liked recently or like more than other frnds.

@Rfb- i think i got a thing on chat room, dnt knw whether it matches with ur observation or not. if i turn off my chat room and extend it till the top end then around 18 frnds appear. now if i refresh the page smtimes 1 to 2 frnds comes first then others frnds pics loaded. i suspect this first 1-2 frnds recent contacted frnd, like whether they just viewed ur update or u just viewed their update, or they commented/liked ur update or u did. i am nt sure, wht u think? –  belogical  Nov 15th, 2012 at 8:00 AM

@belogical: yes! that's also something I've noticed a few times. I'm not really sure again if that could also be someone who visited me. But from the people I've seen this way, it's definitely possible.

Apart from that, I've not noticed anything else of interest recently. My FB-page has been completely uneventful for weeks now. It's true however I don't get any CF-suggestions at all anymore (also not on the CF-page itself). Seems like the FB-people are freaked out now to show any indication of stalkers or at least people who visit you back. Also I really believe the 8-box doesn't show 1 or 2 recent visitors anymore like I'm sure it did until a week or 2 ago.. –  Rfb  Nov 15th, 2012 at 7:06 PM

and @rfb- i am nt getting any CF suggestion for long and not also in CF page. May we are freaking FB out :p. see below--FB like hitted this page 1k! –  belogical  Nov 15th, 2012 at 7:49 PM

@Rfb--I get the close friend suggestions A LOT but there are no surprises there. Usually it was just suggesting one person---My Celebrity Crush of course!

At first the one person suggestion would come up when I was on the Private Message page, then it would show up on nearly every page. It only disappeared once I added him to my Close Friends!

I don't think the 8 or 6 are showing recent visitors anymore either! Darn! –  portlandia  Nov 15th, 2012 at 11:39 PM

@Rfb--Lately when I click on the Close Friend Suggestions on the Close Friends page, the link won't even open, but those suggestions have always been extremely random!

But my "Find Friend" page Friend Suggestions have been showing weird stuff lately from people who are very low in my keesh list. That's the only bizarre thing I've noticed lately. –  portlandia  Nov 19th, 2012 at 8:52 PM

I started getting the close friends suggestion box back since yesterday. (the one with the 15 suggestions.) I used to have no one in my close friends list. Then I added a random person there, and ever since I started getting the box back.

Note that the suggestions in the box make sense UNLIKE the suggestions I used to get from the "see all suggestions" link in the close friends page. The last link I mention is still not working at all for me.

Also, the random person I added as a close friend started appearing in my 6-box and in the chatlist at the right side of the screen. –  randomname  Nov 19th, 2012 at 11:33 PM

@randomname: I tried the CF-thing, and it worked for me within a second. Thanks!! –  Rfb  Nov 20th, 2012 at 5:50 AM

Nowadays I think its just the ones who are currently online or close friends (listed). –  julie  Nov 22nd, 2012 at 7:55 AM

I agree with Julie. It definitely shows the close friends and I'm pretty sure it shows the online friends at the time as well. Other than that the 6 list seems kinda stuck for months. Only additions: Some people recently interacted with (sent them happy birthday, liked their statuses and stuff).

But today I had a strange addition to the 6-list. 2 random friends started appearing a lot. They are completely random. We have NEVER had any interaction whatsoever. I'm very sure they're not "stalking" me and I'm also very sure I'm not stalking them at all. Maybe it will start becoming a little more "random" I guess. –  randomname  Nov 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 AM

all these apps are scams –  randomname  Nov 25th, 2012 at 7:17 AM

I've heard that about some apps, but this one is supposed to send an anonymous email from the app to your crush, saying that someone has a crush on you. Then if that person emails back to the app that they have a crush on you also, the app automatically emails both of you to notify that you both have a crush on each other. Sounds like it could work in theory, but I doubt if a person would take it seriously if they saw it on facebook because there are so many stupid apps.

Anyway...I don't think I need this app anymore anyway. Since posting this question, my celebrity crush and I had a virtual date (sexual) last night, and we plan to meet again in the chat room tonight.

I think it's so cool because it sort of confirms all of our suspicions in coming to this board because facebook was giving us hints about who liked us back. I thank facebook for bringing us together! :-) –  portlandia  Nov 26th, 2012 at 2:00 AM

@portlandia, wow! You got what you wanted in the end! I believe it's true FB was giving us these hints idd, but possibly not anymore. But anyway, your success eventually comes from stepping out of your safe area and going for it of course. You do make me a bit curious what a virtual sexual date would be lol. Don't have experience with that. But of course I'm not asking you to share all private details with us ;-) So congratulations!! –  Rfb  Nov 26th, 2012 at 5:59 AM

@portlandia, it happened to me too once, that my answer disappeared after I typed it, very annoying!! And I guess your date was pretty much what I was already thinking ;-) Btw, some time ago I made a hotmail account to be able to discuss some private stuff instead of doing it here. If you ever feel like it you can email me there (rfb1234). Of course you don't have to if you don't want. But if you do want to talk without sharing it with everybody else, you can :-) –  Rfb  Nov 26th, 2012 at 11:10 AM

@Rfb--I just shot you an email from the name of my dummy facebook account. Look for it. Thanks! :-) –  portlandia  Nov 26th, 2012 at 3:15 PM

@portlandia, thanks but it hasn't reached me yet! Are you sure you got the email address right? Or maybe it just takes longer from your dummy fb account. In that case I'll just be patient :-) –  Rfb  Nov 26th, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Holy crap I'm a dumbsh*t. I sent it to your email address at gmail not hotmail... LOL!

Well, somebody is going to be a tab confused/amused!!! :-) –  portlandia  Nov 26th, 2012 at 7:30 PM

@portlandia, I got it now!! I wonder what the gmail person thinks idd if the account exists there ;-) ttys! –  Rfb  Nov 26th, 2012 at 8:08 PM

@Rfb--I don't know, but if I were that person I'd be laughing my ass off and sharing that email with all my friends! HA! :-) –  portlandia  Nov 26th, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Could be due to the IP address..? –  tiff  Nov 27th, 2012 at 10:07 PM

@tiff could be, Though I made a fake account a few months back, from which
i never visit my real one and I've NEVER had the fake account in my friends suggestions. I might try to "stalk" the real one from the fake one and see if I get the same result as Portlandia. –  randomname  Nov 28th, 2012 at 12:08 AM

@joanna, i am nt sure with dis fact bt possible. But i suspect if any1 appears continuously on People u may know and appears in ur search bar just by putting letters there u cud find some stalkers who r not on ur frnd list. I guess they r watching ur public staffs. But there is also some randoms.

Anyway, i cudnt post seperately thats why posting here. I figured something with my 6 box. 1 boy who cud visit my profile but not simultaneously...appeared frequently for 1 week then disappeared totally. Its also happened with another frnd. And there is another fact, for the frnds who r not always active in FB. 1 of my frnd who stalks me ( im sure) appears in 6 box whenevr he is active or logged on ( as he is not a chain FB guy), on the same time his wife appears all the time in 6 and in everywhere ( she logs on in FB 2-3 times a day). I am close to them and i am sure they r stalking me with purpose.
so my conclusion is 6 box also depended on being active in FB as well as d ppl who cares what u do.
8 box still unsolved mystery, yesterday my 8th slot was empty, today its filled with a super random girl ( i never care, she never cares abt me too). But from my dummy accounts experiment i guess these cud be the ppl u liked ( status or staffs) mostly, or new frnds on whom u became keen about and liked staffs. But its still a mystery. I could nt match any ppl with other in this box.
Close friend suggestion is different from 2 months ago. 2 months ago it revealed all of my probable stalkers ( public or nonpublic interaction). But now top rows r consists of mostly Family, then middle rows r of frnds with mutual liking staffs mostly, and then on last rows i got some of my stalkers. –  belogical  Nov 29th, 2012 at 9:49 PM

I'm answering here because I can't post a new answer. Lately I've noticed that who appears on the 6-box is the same as it was always, but in the frequency with which they appear has A LOT to do with who is online (logged in) at the time. I've checked it in a million ways. Definitely true. So it reveals what it reveals, but also definitely reveals who is online. I also don't like that to be honest. I don't want others to know when I AM online. lol! –  randomname  Dec 2nd, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Regarding the Keesh list -- I've come to the conclusion that it's complete one-sided. my friend and I have both had birthdays recently (and obviously people wrote on our walls, etc) and we both have been tracking the list, and only people whose profiles we have looked at have gone up. –  tiff  Dec 2nd, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Has anyone looked at the source page?
search for "orderedfriends" and you can find the people using www.facebook.com/# –  StupidGirl  Dec 5th, 2012 at 1:18 AM

sorry to say, bt im not convinced. my 6 box showing a girl for 3 days, i didnt visit her profile ever. im also annoyed a little by it. there are bunches of examples like dis. 6 box obvious show your interests and also ppl who visits you.

But 8 box, i cant solve anyway. Also d frnd box, i dnt think it helps u to find ur silent stalkers. –  belogical  Dec 10th, 2012 at 6:56 PM

sorry, by "frnd box" i meant " the whole frnd list order" –  belogical  Dec 10th, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Hmm... one person on my OrderedFriendsList (aka the chat list order) dropped about 10 people out of nowhere today... –  tiff  Dec 12th, 2012 at 6:05 PM

So, because I view his wall often, we are on each other's walls as highlighted friends? Maybe, but I think it's more mutual. I know that he has looked at my wall and through my photos because he told me so! I'm trying to help because my crush did turn out to be mutual feelings. Also, if the intereset is mutual, you will always be near the top of his friends list, and he at the top of yours. –  portlandia  Dec 17th, 2012 at 12:04 AM

@portlandia....im agreed with anonymous. Cause highlighted frnds on timeline r only those nw who u listed as closefrnds. On 2011 fb showed history of added frnds which included big picture of ur big stalker, and highlighted frnds without being listed on CF, bt it doesnt work anymore. Bt if u mention the relation with ur bf that must show on ur timeline. I havnt mentioned any relationship status with my bf and my closest frnd on the world, they r nt in my CF list and they r nt highlighted on timeline bt they did on 2011.
And i dnt think frndlist reveal ur stalkers. I have a dummy. I stalk myself with dat dummy, im always on top of my dummys list and on 8 list, bt on my real account my dummy on lower bottom and not in 8, bt on 6 frequently. It draws d conclution dat 8 box n frndlist is nt helpful to find ur stalker. –  belogical  Dec 17th, 2012 at 12:35 PM

@belogical--First of all, the other friends highlighted on my wall are not listed as "Close Friends" and second, why am I on his wall also? These selections aren't just random. The other highlights listed on his wall are when he became friends with his wife, his son, and two people he plays in bands with.

And I think if my crush has 1000+ friends and I'm always in his top friends, that is certainly not random....it's because we are always commenting on or liking each others posts. (and I check this from my dummy account who is not friends with my real account) –  portlandia  Dec 17th, 2012 at 7:10 PM

No way my Highlighted Friends are not in my CF, and my CF, like my sister for example,are not in my Highlighted Friends.... It's not all black or all withe. I believe that nothing is random on facebook, there are some subtleties. Portlandia I found your post very interesting. I believe the 8 box is a good way to find the potentials stalkers. –  BlackSky  Dec 17th, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Interesting. According to you, what is more important the private one, or the public one? –  BlackSky  Dec 18th, 2012 at 7:04 AM